Date: 2014-06-29 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I agree with you, we should end government dependency:
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Why you pay more in taxes than GE (http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/pay-taxes-ge-article-1.1061158) 
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Date: 2014-06-30 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icelore.livejournal.com
This...this is excellent.

Date: 2014-06-29 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Stop buying this nonsense dems are feeding their supporters.

Offer an alternative who is not a corporate whore, warmonger, religious freak, or neo fascist.

Date: 2014-06-29 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
About what specifically. Someone I know just died and their spouse will get death benefits due to Obama.

I can also cite things I hate about him. Same with red team. So I agree, but I also don't have Utopia as an option.

Date: 2014-06-30 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
You are always picking on us religious freaks, some day you are going to hurt my feelings

(but not today, Costa Rica won and I'm in a great mood!!!! :D)

Date: 2014-06-30 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Congrats on your team. I will burn for eternity for my blasphemy against the holy spirit, but until then I have to be true to mine (thine) own self.

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Date: 2014-06-30 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Also, on a serious note, despite my disagreeing with all of those who have used the religions for nefarious ends, I do believe the reason the book remains popular for eons is that the true depths of human suffering, confusion, hatred, love and compassion are reflected within its pages.

"Even if its just a token
It was good for giving hope to
People who were broken
"

Date: 2014-06-29 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Instead he is smuggling thousands of illegals

Full stop. We can't have these conversations and expect any understanding when you dive off the deep end with hyperbole like this. Obama has continued deportations, even aggressively so. Congress won't address immigration reform mainly because the GOP House banks on their quasi-racist hard line on the topic.

Obama can't just close tax loopholes or reverse tax incentives for corporations who offshore operations and money by fiat.

Date: 2014-06-29 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I started a post highlighting that sentence saying "this is why you're not taken seriously", and then I stopped and opted for sprinkler toys.
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Date: 2014-06-29 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
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Date: 2014-06-29 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
I remember her!

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Date: 2014-06-30 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icelore.livejournal.com
You know, sometimes you need to keep it simple. For some, pictures,crayons, and hand puppets work best. I think you choose the correct option.

Date: 2014-06-29 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
How do you suggest President Obama secure the border?

Why can't he just close tax loopholes? Doesn't he have a pen and phone?

You realize that using Executive Orders to change the tax code would create a massive outcry by Republicans? They're already accusing him of some Imperial Presidency stuff, even though his use of such signing orders and such is far less than his predecessor.

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Date: 2014-06-29 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
What racism?

Republicans admit racism is contributing to immigration reform gridlock (http://www.salon.com/2014/01/30/republicans_admit_racism_is_contributing_to_immigration_reform_gridlock/)

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Date: 2014-06-29 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
GOP says they will not have conversation until border is secured. Don't you think that's the right approach?

What makes it the right approach? The problem is we already have millions of undocumented immigrants already here. That's a problem for us, irrespective of whether the "borders are secure." If anything, there needs to be a joint approach - one that "secures the borders" while also realistically addressing the millions of people living and working in this country.

But practically and politically speaking, this "secure borders" claptrap is just a red herring - a conveniently non-racist sounding rationale not to do anything productive about our immigration issues that so-happens to be a pie-in-the-sky demand without precisely identified benchmarks. How "secure" is secure, for instance? How many billions of dollars do we have to spend on border patrol agents and border-control technology and infrastructure, before we can finally turn to creating a ten-year-long glide path to quasi-citizenship for people who have always thought of the U.S. as their home? Talking about "border security" as a precondition to even talking about immigration reform is just like complaining that you don't trust the presidency or holding endless hearings trying to figure out what happened to some IRS official's e-mails. A massive diversion, political theater, utterly nonsensical red meat.

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Date: 2014-06-30 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdwarv.livejournal.com
Re: Racism
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Date: 2014-07-02 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Also, did you know Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any president before him?

http://www.thenation.com/article/179099/why-has-president-obama-deported-more-immigrants-any-president-us-history

Date: 2014-07-03 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
From your citation (did you read it? Because it agrees with me)

"Such patterns do not explain the 57 percent bump in monthly deportations that we found under Obama."

And

"Technically, the ad isn’t correct to say that Barack Obama "has deported more people than any other president in this country's history," since George W. Bush cumulatively deported more over his full eight-year term -- and since Bush would remain ahead of Obama if Mitt Romney wins the presidency in November.

However, we -- and the experts we interviewed -- agree that the ad is right to note a significant jump in deportations under Obama. Measured by the monthly frequency of deportation, Obama’s numbers are significantly higher than Bush’s were, even as the estimated population of illegal immigrants was falling.
"

That was from Obama's first term. He won the elections and the rate of deportations did not decrease.
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