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[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

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[deborahkla.livejournal.com]

In your dreams, sister.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

Fight for your right to have no regulation so the powerful can use their power to diminish the power of the underclass!

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Yay neofeudalism!

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Turn your life to a well meaning government official, like Lerner. Do not complain later about lost e-mails.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

You don't seem to realize that in the absence of the government having *some sort* of regulatory power, your life would be controlled by monopolistic corporations. Corporations that cannot be voted out of office.

Govt isn't perfect--nothing is perfect
Question is: w/o Govt involvement what happens? If the answer is "really bad shit" maybe the govt should get involved.

[icelore.livejournal.com]

Fight for your right to have the wealthy set up a system that encourages you to be dependent on the government!

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

That's what liberals pretty successfully are fighting for, right? That what super rich Pelosi and Reid did with our healthcare.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Say it with me: Private Insurers. That's what the ACA expanded the scope and participation of.

[icelore.livejournal.com]

You really want to talk about the kind of healthcare liberals wants for US citizens vs what conservative want? Please.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

I agree with you, we should end government dependency:

Why you pay more in taxes than GE (http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/pay-taxes-ge-article-1.1061158) 

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

I am very happy you agree.
As far as GE concerned, did you ever asked yourself why Mr. "Hope and Change" isn't working on this? Instead he is smuggling thousands of illegals to suppress American wages farther down? I know you will say that reps are on the way, but that can be true, because they are on the way of immigration "reform" and government take over of healthcare too, right? So as we see, this argument doesn't fit well with the pattern. Could it be that it he isn't working on this issue because Immelt owns NBC, staunch supporter of his?
Do you really believe that he is fighting for you?
How many times he visited Compton, Santee, on the other hand Beverly Hills and La Jolla?
Stop buying this nonsense dems are feeding their supporters. With all their millions and billions, millionaire and billionaire friends their care about regular people-yeah, right!

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Pick an issue.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Stop buying this nonsense dems are feeding their supporters.

Offer an alternative who is not a corporate whore, warmonger, religious freak, or neo fascist.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Instead he is smuggling thousands of illegals

Full stop. We can't have these conversations and expect any understanding when you dive off the deep end with hyperbole like this. Obama has continued deportations, even aggressively so. Congress won't address immigration reform mainly because the GOP House banks on their quasi-racist hard line on the topic.

Obama can't just close tax loopholes or reverse tax incentives for corporations who offshore operations and money by fiat.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Also, did you know Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any president before him?

http://www.thenation.com/article/179099/why-has-president-obama-deported-more-immigrants-any-president-us-history

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Who is your favorite president/government?

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

That's the whole point - none.

[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Fair enough. Let me know if you change your mind.

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

Please read Isiah Berlin's Two Concepts of Liberty. It is helpful for those who really do want to abandon antiquated concepts of liberty in favour of a more modern version.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Is there a specific point you could summarize?

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

I am not sure what is your point, but I can tell you from get go that I'm not an anarchist at all. We all argue about where the line between positive and negative liberty should be. I take 10 commandments as basic postulates. Everything is driven on this fundament.
It crosses the line when government tells me I have to buy a certain product, or wants to take the most my fruits of my labor. I am also for the concept of state, so my taxes should benefit only the members of that state. And so on.

[tcpip.livejournal.com]

Well, there isn't Ten Commandments anyway. But assuming this, do you think those "basic postulates" should be laws.

The point is that purely negative theories of liberty do not consider enabling positive liberties.

[blackdwarv.livejournal.com]

So, let me get this straight.

When the government tells you that you have to buy a certain product... like say a road or a bridge or police force... so those should all be thrown out and only private (toll) bridges and for-hire police should exist. Gotcha.

Wants to take most of my fruits of labor. Um, I'll assume you are using hyperbole here, because last time I checked, tax rates maxed out at 40%.. which isn't 'most'. More, you are actually getting a return on this in things like infrastructure, defense, and social programs which even if you don't use, are keeping your front lawn uncluttered from lepers begging for one of your coins...

Taxes should only benefit the members of that state? I thought you were against the federal government?

Ten Commandments? Tell me, what morality is governed by the graven images clause? You'd really be a-okay with slavery? How does same-sex marriage or polygamy or even (that Republican favorite) bestiality? None of these are forbidden by the Ten Commandments (unless it is your neighbor's ass that you want to bone...). And how do you propose to enforce that whole "God's Name In Vain" thing? Morality police who wander around waiting for a guy to stub his toe and shout "Jesus Christ"?

[brother-dour.livejournal.com]

The only option to this is becoming a neofeudal serf to Big Business-backed plutocracy. So we're screwed either way.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

True, thought fighting big business might be a little easier. At least that's my hope, also once in while they will through some crumbs.