golden rules

[artkouros.livejournal.com]

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[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

Pretty much.

I know plenty of Christians who are good and decent people. The religious right is not these people, down to the brokest, bitterest footsoldier.

If we condemn Islam for not repudiating the terrorists claiming it as their religion, we can also condemn Xtianity for not casting out these vengeful pharisees.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

I don't understand why you are comparing terrorists with book burners.

The nation has very soundly condemned the book burners.

It is unnecessary to condemn all Christians in general for a completely over-reported incident which has nothing to do with them.

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

It is unnecessary to condemn all Muslims in general for a completely over-reported incident which has nothing to do with them.


In general, people know that you shouldn't condemn all of Christianity for a few fruitloops, but they're making a point by saying it that you should think of Islam similarly.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

Who is "they"?

The New Golden Rule:

Do unto all Christianity what a few nutty pastors would have done against Muslims.

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

You didn't listen to a word I said did you.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

Show us where all Christians are being condemned.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

The previous commenter was saying that condemnation of general "Xtianity" is somehow deserved if Islamic communities fail to condemn terrorists. I think that's apples and oranges.

But to answer your question, Christians are not being condemned. They are subject to ridicule and heckled anonymously, (flying spaghetti monster is my very favorite and delicious example... I was touched many years ago...) but so is everybody and that's fair and they can take it.

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

Of course we're ridiculing right wing whackjob Taliban Christian soldiers.

What I'm asking for is even a little effort on the part of mainstream Christians to repudiate the radical extremists from their ranks. I see no sign of this, so I get to tar all Christians as an inherently violent, intolerant religion that we'd all be better off without.

Its only what we're asking of Islam, right?

Really? That's the only part of that sentence you read?

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

"If we condemn Islam for not repudiating the terrorists claiming it as their religion, we can also condemn Xtianity for not casting out these vengeful pharisees."

S/he's calling the mainstream of both religions out on failing to expunge their respective weaponized-versions by drawing a comparison between the two.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

I think that anybody arguing for greater understanding and tolerance of Islam should also try to understand that there are many different branches of Christianity, and almost all are tolerant, inviting, and forgiving. It's the same argument, and it deserves to be said.

Also, I've heard the argument presented in the second panel, and it is the most illogical, infuriating, and ridiculous argument available today.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

As a curious atheist I invite you to explain to me how.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

To make it easier, Could you please use this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members to point to me which denominations are intolerant, uninviting, or unforgiving?

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

1) Roman Catholics invite everybody to their masses. If they think the other sects should convert, well, that's pretty inviting to. They have internal problems, but being uninviting or intolerant or unforgiving doesn't seem to be among them.

2) Protestants seem to be less centrally organized, and their churches probably vary a great deal, but I've never heard of them turning people away or being intolerant to new religions.

3) Jehovah's Witnesses are unforgiving, it's true, but they are so goddamn inviting at 6 on a Sunday, so maybe it evens out?

As for the other ones, those can be scary. Small percentage of the whole population though.

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

Oh this again, the great pissing match that is trying to argue which Abranatic religion is more insane.

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

I think Animism beats 'em all.

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

should've probalby been more specific:

trying to argue which Abranatic religion is more inherently violent, both Christianity and Islam have a long list of atrocities to each name. To argue which one is worse is incredibly boring to me.

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

The old testament is basically one military slaughter after another.

[artkouros.livejournal.com]

Yes - it's turned into quite the pissing match. I confess to being a little surprised since the cartoon is not about religion.

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

if the cartoon itself wasn't the comments certainly turned into it.

[sammygoliath.livejournal.com]

I beg to differ. The cartoon had four panels, three of which had religious overtones.

What right wing evangelicals and fundementalist practice is not Christian

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

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Re: What right wing evangelicals and fundementalist practice is not Christian

[artkouros.livejournal.com]

Who are you, the Council of Nicaea?

Re: What right wing evangelicals and fundementalist practice is not Christian

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

I'm a panacea alright.