Date: 2010-09-14 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Quote: myself: In general, people know that you shouldn't condemn all of Christianity for a few fruitloops, but they're making a point by saying it that you should think of Islam similarly.

Date: 2010-09-14 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammygoliath.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear in my last comment.

I disagree because I don't think that the comparison of Terry and Christianity to terrorists and Islam is fair due to the vast difference in magnitude.

Date: 2010-09-14 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Ok, use the abortion bombers, or the Lords Resistance Army terrorists, or the crusaders, or the inquisition, or whatever you think would be similar, I don't care and it doesn't matter.

Date: 2010-09-14 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammygoliath.livejournal.com
The abortion bombers are valid. LRA is not because it also pretended to be Islamic, thus ruining its credibility forever. The crusaders or the inquisition don't count because that's before 10 years ago.

On my side I'll just take honor killings. Hezbollah and Al Quaeda don't count completely because they are mostly political.

That leaves us with a handful on your side and thousands on mine.

Date: 2010-09-14 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammygoliath.livejournal.com
sorry, I thought I was replying to a different thread...

Date: 2010-09-14 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadaria.livejournal.com
Wait, anything that wasn't 10 years ago doesn't count now? Riiight...

Oh and I think killing people with AIDS counts.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/oct/09/aids

Can we talk about child abuse, medical negligence and domestic violence that are considered holy in the FCLDS? http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Carolyn-Jessop/dp/0767927567
If Christianity is such a good religion, then why is this man wanted by the FBI? http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/cac/jeffs_ws.htm

Shootings are ok too if you are a Christian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tiller

BTW, it helps if you actually read what Rukh is saying.

Date: 2010-09-14 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammygoliath.livejournal.com
Killing with AIDS doesn't count. The catholic church is not obligated to supply condoms to anybody, and they most definitely don't withhold condoms from people.

The FCLDS are creepy, but even your figurehead is not being charged with murder.

George Tiller counts though.

Date: 2010-09-14 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com
The Catholic church inoculates people against understanding why condoms can help them.

Sure, when instead of hurting someone you teach them to hurt themselves, culpability works differently. But their actions have consequences nonetheless.

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