Sarah Palin Calls for Impeachment

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

Because of Obama’s purposeful dereliction of duty an untold number of illegal immigrants will kick off their shoes and come on in, competing against Americans for our jobs and limited public services. There is no end in sight as our president prioritizes parties over doing the job he was hired by voters to do. Securing our borders is obviously fundamental here; it goes without saying that it is his job.

The federal government is trillions of dollars in debt; many cities are on the verge of insolvency; our overrun healthcare system, police forces, social services, schools, and our unsustainably generous welfare-state programs are stretched to the max. We average Americans know that. So why has this issue been allowed to be turned upside down with our “leader” creating such unsafe conditions while at the same time obstructing any economic recovery by creating more dependents than he allows producers? His friendly wealthy bipartisan elite, who want cheap foreign labor and can afford for themselves the best “border security” money can buy in their own exclusive communities, do not care that Obama tapped us out.

-- Sarah Palin

Comments

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

You'll see the problem, but it will be too late.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

oh my god you are still talking

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

I would love to stop talking, but have no time for that.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Conservative prophecies of Dooooooom!

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Actually, that's just me, nothing to do with conservatism. I am big time pessimist, no secret there. Though, I should say that most of the time I am correct - Cassandra.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Conservatism is all about pessimism - that's why people cling to the past and don't look to the future, believe in scarcity and loss and the correctness of ideology, even when it's shown over and over not to work. Because it COULD, and that's as close to hope as people of that sort get.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Wasn't Reagan an optimist?
Conservatism are wise that's why they do not run and try to implement every stupid idea that comes to mind. The liberals, on the other hand, come up with an idea they think might work, though it never work before, but this time it will, because they are so smart and calculated everything. They not smart enough to realize that nobody can predict everything.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Reagan gave amnesty to illegal immigrants, poured billions into the "Star Wars" missile defense program that turned out to be useless, and started the runaway debt that has plagued us ever since. And was suffering from degenerating mental faculties by his second term.

Liberals place human need above ideology, that's the part people like you can't understand.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

That's not what I was asking - simply was he an optimist or not.
Liberals place human needs above anything only if they don't have to pay for it. Clintons - perfect examples. While they want to spend taxpayers money for idiotic programs, they take tax credit for Bill's used underwear (this isn't a joke).
People like me do not want to waste our hard earned money - that's all. I can stay home and enjoy my life too, just like the poor do - let the suckers support me. There is no ideology here.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Who knows if he was an optimist or not. Ronald Reagan was one of the rich people though, so I'm sure he was happy enough. Real conservatives don't consider him one of them. Mainly because of the way he tripled the nation's debt.

Clinton was the last fiscally responsible President we've had. Reagan, Bush, W, Obama, all ran up the debt. Now I'd argue that Obama had to do so because the economy was tanking but you're deluded if you think conservatives are fiscally responsible - they haven't been in my lifetime. Not at all.

I can stay home and enjoy my life too, just like the poor do - let the suckers support me.

You're functionally retarded if you think this. Welfare and food stamps are a pittance and the process of getting social services is degrading, intentionally so.

You're wasting your hard-earned money paying for the War on Terror, giveaways to Israel, Homeland Security, etc.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

That's what I heard about Reagan.
I am talking about liberals as personalities - they only do good did using somebody else's money.
Why are so much in love with Obama?
Conservatives suppose to be fiscally responsible, if they aren't - then they aren't real conservatives.
Why do you call me names? That's not nice. Do you think that everybody who get assistance really deserves it?
Wasting our money on all of the above is not good. Don't forget Palestinians, and the rest.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Conservatives suppose to be fiscally
responsible, if they aren't - then they aren't real conservatives

We haven't had a conservative government in my lifetime then.

Listen, I wasn't calling you names. But if you think that government assistance is some sort of awesome fun time, you have no idea how little money it actually is and how much humiliation and abuse recipients have to go through. I've never used it myself but I've known enough disabled veterans and social workers to know the details.

Welfare fraud is minimal. Clinton-era reforms made sure that the States perform rigorous checks. And genuinely disabled people end up dying before they can get medical treatment or benefits because of the checks on the system.

I'm not so in love with Obama. He's a right-center politician who has kept up most of the bad policies he inherited, including spying on Americans and our overseas aggression. But he did address the tanking economy and the huge holes in our health care system. A genuine liberal would have gone for single-payer but we're not civilized enough to do that in America.

I'm going to suggest you don't really know anything about liberals beyond what Fox and Breitbart tell you. This can be changed however, since you're having a dialog with one ;)

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

We haven't had a conservative government in my lifetime then.
I am not arguing that. Would be nice to have one.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

If we're talking a fiscal conservative sans the religious craziness, I'd be on board.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

What you mean by religious craziness? I think religion is very important part of our lives, thought I myself do not practice it, but I know that it has very positive influence on people.
Let me finish the other reply. LJ goes nuts on me posting messages before I'm done.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

No biggie, we all get frustrated once in a while.
I'm not talking about people who really needs assistance. I wouldn't mind, if the assistance to really disabled people was enhanced. The number of people on disability dramatically increased in recent years. Do I think it's just an accident? No. Too many people get welfare and it's so much fraud, as by design. When the benefits are so diluted, people who really deserve it and the taxpayers are the ones who suffer. In California I have to pay a tuition, when illegals don't have to. Do think this is fair?
He is not only leftist, he is socialist, though I am not sure what right-center really means. I differ on this paragraph.
I actually have a lot of friends and family that are liberals. So don't think I'm a simpleton. I categorize them as follows:
.Do not know anything, just hear some slogan and march
.Pretty much informed, but don't understand
.Have other motivations
.Well informed, very well understands everything, honest. I don't understand how this person can be a liberal.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

If you think Obama is a socialist, you automatically join the ranks of the obstinately stupid.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Of course, only stupid do not admire and worship the king.

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

Not the issue.

The issue is mistaking someone like Barack Obama for a socialist which is an act of supreme idiocy.

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

The number of people on disability dramatically increased in recent years

Do you have statistics to support that?

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Not that I could refer to as pure numbers, too much work for me. And I didn't want to bring up right wing media.
How about this article:

http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/11/news/economy/disability-payments/

Fair enough?

[fizzyland.livejournal.com]

Sure but nothing there suggests lazy people looking for handouts. Instead, the results of an aging populace, a decade of war, and absolutely nothing suggesting people are scamming the system.

Thanks for not using right wing media.

[peristaltor.livejournal.com]

Any media funded through commercials is by definition right wing. That includes CNN.

[peristaltor.livejournal.com]

The number of people on disability dramatically increased in recent years. Do I think it's just an accident? No.

I agree. It's because the number of people also increased, and within that increase was a number of older people, who generally qualify for disability benefits the most (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3818).



As you can see, though applications have gone up, rewards have not. Rewards, in fact, have stayed exactly where they were historically as a percentage of the older population.

Oh, I'm sorry, you were saying?

Too many people get welfare and it's so much fraud, as by design.

Oops, you were merely being very, very wrong. My bad. I return you now to your fact-free bloviations.