...Just sayin'...

[blackdwarv.livejournal.com]

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[yes-justice.livejournal.com]

Its choice between earth tones and bold colors.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

And cleavage. Don't forget that!

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

As if we could.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

There are societies where breasts are completely non-sexual.

Jus sayin'.

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

That sounds kind of depressing, but
we must not be talking of the modern world.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

I'm sure we would get along just fine if breasts were de-sexualized. Have you ever heard of "bubble-porn"? The imagination is what really does it for us, as humans, IMO.

(and the socieities I spoke of are modern, although perhaps not, modern in the sense of smartphones and PC's)

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

Perhaps, but I have thought that
imagination needs some real food,
a spark to catch fire.

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

This is not a pipe.

And while one must have a concept to work from, one need not be in touch with something "really-real"
Just think of hot cartoon characters

[blackdwarv.livejournal.com]

There is a couple of schools of thought that breasts are the human equivalent of the isichial swelling (and sometimes colors...) that many other primates have to show when they are in estrous. Not convenient to upright walkers, so instead a different display was selected for.

If that is the case, then breasts will always be sexualized. We can make them much less of a big deal, however, or sexual when the time is right...

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

"If that is the case, then breasts will always be sexualized"

Well, then, I think that's not the case, since breasts are not always sexualized.

As I said, some societies have them non-sexual at all.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Is there a society where they are non-sexualised all the time? I know in plenty of cultures it's no big thing for women to not cover their breasts (it seems to be the norm in warm, nomadic cultures), but the ones I know enough to know about there's still a sexual element to them. But that's also wrapped up in the whole fertility element. Sex and breasts are both linked to reproduction, so there's a sexual element to breasts from that. The big difference with our culture is that we've managed to de-link sex from reproduction so the relationship between sex-reproduction-breasts has been broken, which makes everything much more confusing.

Just interested if you know anything specifically, I'm not trying to call bullshit or anything, I study anthropology for fun.

[icelore.livejournal.com]

You know, I really like the earth tones. They seem much more serious, and less cartoony.

[bikinisquad3000.livejournal.com]

Dying to see the response once this picture makes it back to this young lady.

[beyondfake-0.livejournal.com]

^^^^

[blackdwarv.livejournal.com]

That is Holly Fisher, who recently gained some internet popularity telling us dumb liberals how intolerant we are because we don't believe in the Jesus of Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-a.

Her twitter is quite unintentionally hilarious, full of "Going to the gun range! Feeling blessed!" type posts...

[beyondfake-0.livejournal.com]

Oh no, I hope she's from Utah.

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

The one on the right is far more likely to use her weapon for its intended purpose. The one on the left is LARPing.

[dexeron.livejournal.com]

Much as I hate the American Tea-liban, I don't really like this picture, or at least the one going around where it's captioned: "What's the difference." It's kind of an obvious difference. One is actually likely to use it in a conflict where she sees herself as a "freedom fighter" and we likely see her as a "terrorist." The other has fun at the gun range and maybe goes hunting.

Yea, the Dominionists have killed people, but we're still not talking even remotely the same ballpark. Which is part of the reason we're so up in arms about them. So we can stop things before they get to that point.

[blackdwarv.livejournal.com]

Really? Because around the Teabilly circles, you keep hearing about armed insurrection, and needing rifles to protect yourself from the government... The actual actions haven't followed (yet), but the propaganda is much the same.

More, the purpose of the original picture by Ms. Fisher was to 'make liberals heads explode' and to more or less troll. When you put yourself out as an exemplar, don't be surprised if people snipe back at you...

[dexeron.livejournal.com]

All true, and trust me, I've engaged with people who literally think we are in a "cold civil war" and that they have to stockpile guns in order to be ready when it "goes hot." Yikes.

I still think the version I was referencing with the caption "what is the difference" is a bit premature. We're not to that point... yet. I do like the version where the caption is "Is it just me, or is Republican Christianity starting to look a lot like extremist Islam?" That accurately sums up my complaint against these people: they are BECOMING more and more radicalized, and their rhetoric is mirroring that of the violent (my fear is that their insane persecution complex is going to make more of them cross over that line than the tiny handful we've seen in the past.)

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Don't you think the juxtaposition, even if hyperbolic, does serve to initiate the conversation of how to avoid getting to that point? Thinking of "what's the difference?" as an actual question, not a rhetorical one, is where you get the one on the left to justify their position.

Of course, if one considers guns, religion and patriotism as anti-thetical to society as terrorism, then it's not even a matter of degrees; they're both demonstrating anti-social behaviour that should be condemned.

[dexeron.livejournal.com]

Maybe. See, I'm the last person to pull out a "tone" argument; I've found that people who are willing to listen will listen regardless of tone, and those unwilling will find some excuse to dismiss any argument regardless of tone. That being said, I've noticed a lot of religious folks getting really turned off by the comparison, and it seems to be shutting down any possibility for conversation on this beyond that.

Now, whether that initial shock really shuts things down totally, or will result in them thinking more about it once that initial shock wears off, is another question I've heard raised.

And yea, I agree that the conversation has to be initiated. I'm just not sure of how best to go about that.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it definitely runs the risk of having people just close their ears, and I'm sure the intent here is a liberal circle jerk, not conservative self reflection.