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No whore pills for you*

*Viagra, penis pumps, vasectomies still covered. Also, investments in abortion product firms.

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Got more info on that last point?

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2014/04/01/hobby-lobby-401k-discovered-to-be-investor-in-numerous-abortion-and-contraception-products-while-claiming-religious-objection/

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This should be reason enough to throw out their case as an act of bad faith.

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We'd both think so and still be wrong, somehow. Hobby Lobby also thinks that IUD's are abortifactants and covered the other forms of birth control prior to filing their suit.

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I don't have an issue with the IUDs as abortificants argument, I can see how they get there (well, I do have an issue with it, and I think they're wrong, but I can see how they get there). I'm not sure about US law, but here there's an implied duty of good faith in contracts and legal documents; a contract or a lawsuit can be deemed invalid if it's shown a party was acting in bad faith.

This is almost the perfect example of acting in bad faith.

Edited Date: 2014-07-01 02:57 am (UTC)

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I find the childish insistence of religious people that life starts at conception, problematic at best. There's a reason that no civil or legal rulings have ever made in favor of that position.

Hobby Lobby is run by shitheads. The remedy now is a market remedy. Losing business.

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Didn't Chick Fil A* increase business after it came out all homophobic? I'm not sure this will harm their business in many places.

*or whatever it's called, "chick filler" is how I always read it, so I always think there's innuendo in the name, which is funny in this context.

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They had a momentary spike as the Fox Newsheads flocked to them for a day or two, then went back to scrabbling along.

I have to say, I've never actually seen one.

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Yes, well that's chicken. And notable dunderheads like the Palins made a big point about eating there. Because the love of Jeebus and hating gays goes together.

Hobby Lobby appeals to a more niche market. Instead of irritating a smaller group, they went after women, that 50% of the population group.

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Hobby Lobby appeals to a more niche market. Instead of irritating a smaller group, they went after women, that 50% of the population group.

How does offering most contraceptives constitute going after women?

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100% of the users of IUD's and morning-after pills are women.

If Hobby Lobby really had principles, they'd probably stop those investments in abortion-related products and doing most of their buying from China, the land of forced abortions.

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100% of the users of IUD's and morning-after pills are women.

And? The point was their religious rights, it had nothing to do with the gender of who was using the contraceptives.

If Hobby Lobby really had principles, they'd probably stop those investments in abortion-related products and doing most of their buying from China, the land of forced abortions.

That's at least a reasonable criticism, even if it's irrelevant to this specific case.

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And? The point was their religious rights, it had nothing to do with the gender of who was using the contraceptives.

And a lot of men have abortions, I guess. That was the key, right? - abortifacients or something.

The irrational beliefs of an employer definitely should take precedence over the real, material health needs of women..

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And a lot of men have abortions, I guess. That was the key, right? - abortifacients or something.

Yes, abortifacients. If there's some sort of prescription that men can take that causes abortions, those would be opposed, too.

The irrational beliefs of an employer definitely should take precedence over the real, material health needs of women..

The beliefs of the employer, irrational or not, have no impact over the desired material health products of the women. Merely the funding of it.

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The beliefs of the employer, irrational or not, have no impact over the desired material health products of the women. Merely the funding of it.

But you know how the world goes: no funds, no goods and services.

Though, I presume this will be taken care of, and the taxpayers in general will likely pay for these Devil products.

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But you know how the world goes: no funds, no goods and services.

Sure. Thankfully, these people get wages for their work.

Though, I presume this will be taken care of, and the taxpayers in general will likely pay for these Devil products.

I don't see such a regulation getting out of the House.

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Tsk, tsk, more obstacle for poor voters,
and more obstacles for women - what a guy,
what a philosophy!

Go, Corporate, Go!

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That's at least a reasonable criticism, even if it's irrelevant to this specific case.

But doesn't it tell us something about the genuineness of their beliefs?

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Not even a little bit. Their genuine belief involves direct action, not indirect.

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I bet you can keep a straight-face too.

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The truth is easy to tell.

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The trick is believing that there is one Great Truth,
which I find all the more awesome from an atheist.

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Not "one Great Truth," but the idea that there is not a Right and Wrong on many/most issues doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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And? The point was their religious rights, it had nothing to do with the gender of who was using the contraceptives.

Funny how the exercise of religious rights always ends up being restrictions that affect only women. Or maybe funny is the wrong work and "telling" is the more correct word to use.

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Biology is what it is.

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An excuse?

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A constant? An inevitability?

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Patriarchy, misogyny, cultural traditions of viewing women as property.

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No, that's a bridge much too far.

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I can't help it if you want to defend things you don't understand. You want to fall back and claim some sort of biological essentialism but these religious traditions have their roots in a series of assumptions about human nature that are tribalistic and frankly backwards.

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I would imagine their market is heavily biased towards women too...

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LOL +1

I could use a sandwich.

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Maybe we need to stop worrying if a corporation is a citizen and start declaring citizens to be corporations. They seem to get a lot more rights.

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You are a genius!

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