The Racial Divide

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

I don't know. It's a good question: how broad and sweeping the gulf? So long as we have drastic differences in such measures as income and incarceration rates, I suppose the chasm would have to remain fairly wide, even if you do have a more racially diverse mix at the top of the social order.

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[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

I suppose there is the stress of having to make room for the non-whites.

It's simpler than that. Regardless of the value of the arguments, any white people see the rise of affirmative action, of quotas in hiring and scholarships, in favoritism in many areas for the sake of "racial diversity" as an "increase in racial prejudice." While I don't know if "racial prejudice" is the correct terminology for them, it's hard to necessarily argue that they're wrong logically, assuming that the advertised idea of equality is to raise everyone up as opposed to knocking some down to get everyone onto the same level.

[hardblue.livejournal.com]

any white people see the rise of affirmative action, of quotas in hiring and scholarships, in favoritism in many areas for the sake of "racial diversity" as an "increase in racial prejudice."

How else would minorities achieve any sizable position in the middle class? Is it acceptable for non-whites to be forever relegated as janitors and to restaurant positions and gardening and such?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

How else would minorities achieve any sizable position in the middle class?

Assuming we need to care about one's class to begin with, simple equality gets us there. It's not rational to be racist, and much of the problem of Jim Crow-style racism was the legal demands of prejudicial hiring and activity.

Or take the graph from earlier: has combating racial preferences with racial preferences created the result you wanted, or the result that racial preferences had previously shown to create?

[enders-shadow.livejournal.com]

"Assuming we need to care about one's class to begin with"

...wow

would you ever assume we dont need to care about that?

what planet are you from?

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

To be a little clearer about it, I think most issues we chalk up to race/gender/etc are more appropriately class ones, but I also think we spend entirely too much time concerned about the size of certain classes and using terminology on a national level that bears little resemblance to the common experience on a local level.

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

Common experience at the local level is the ghettoization of blacks.
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