[identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons


I don't know. It's a good question: how broad and sweeping the gulf? So long as we have drastic differences in such measures as income and incarceration rates, I suppose the chasm would have to remain fairly wide, even if you do have a more racially diverse mix at the top of the social order.

Date: 2013-07-25 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
How else would minorities achieve any sizable position in the middle class?

Assuming we need to care about one's class to begin with, simple equality gets us there. It's not rational to be racist, and much of the problem of Jim Crow-style racism was the legal demands of prejudicial hiring and activity.

Or take the graph from earlier: has combating racial preferences with racial preferences created the result you wanted, or the result that racial preferences had previously shown to create?

Date: 2013-07-25 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com

"Assuming we need to care about one's class to begin with"

...wow

would you ever assume we dont need to care about that?

what planet are you from?

Date: 2013-07-25 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
To be a little clearer about it, I think most issues we chalk up to race/gender/etc are more appropriately class ones, but I also think we spend entirely too much time concerned about the size of certain classes and using terminology on a national level that bears little resemblance to the common experience on a local level.

Date: 2013-07-25 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com
Common experience at the local level is the ghettoization of blacks.
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