When will we learn?

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[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

I have other concerns so I have to stop debating whether or not this is "bad statistics". Its an infographic with accurate data, thats it. Also I'd like to highlight that I didn't propose anything, that certain characters came out of the woodwork to immediately discount it as it runs counter to their narrative, and that you are coming to their aid for some odd reason.

[wight1984.livejournal.com]

I make an active effort to try to hold all perspectives to the same standard, including perspectives that are similar to or in agreement with my own. You mention how people tend to immediately discount information that runs counter to their narrative, and the reverse is also true; people tend to accept information that confirms their narrative much too easily. Confirmation bias is pretty universal and requires an active effort to avoid.

Part of the reason why I don't like to think of political debate and discussion as being composed of 'sides', but instead try to approach people's arguments and claims individually. Helps reduce bias. I'll question anti-gun regulation statistics just as carefully as I do with this meme, so I don't regard myself as coming to anyone's 'aid'.

[rowsdowerisms.livejournal.com]

I make an active effort to try to hold all perspectives to the same standard, including perspectives that are similar to or in agreement with my own. You mention how people tend to immediately discount information that runs counter to their narrative, and the reverse is also true; people tend to accept information that confirms their narrative much too easily. Confirmation bias is pretty universal and requires an active effort to avoid.

True that. I like being called on my bullshit for the record.

Part of the reason why I don't like to think of political debate and discussion as being composed of 'sides', but instead try to approach people's arguments and claims individually. Helps reduce bias. I'll question anti-gun regulation statistics just as carefully as I do with this meme, so I don't regard myself as coming to anyone's 'aid'.

See I don't get this. All of madscience's quotes used inaccurate statistics to frame the argument as a simple cause effect relationship between the gun ban's and violent crime. Hell he cites an article directly that uses flat numbers and not rates, the exact same thing you took issue with. I haven't had time to interject an opinion other than "you are wrong." And yet, here we are talking about my confirmation biases... Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[wight1984.livejournal.com]

I'll comment on madscience use of statistics when I spot a problem.

I suppose the issue with this particular thread is I was reacting directly to the original post, rather than reading through threads (and behind links) for things to comment on (I do some of that as well, but I'm sure there's plenty I miss)