Trog, you might find that a lot of prgoressives are actually more appalled at Obama's continuation of Bush's policies than your monogoloid lolbertarianism can really understand.
If you want libertarianism to succeed, you might want to quit pounding the same nail over and over again. Cf. John Tchoe. He's just Tickful on hate over the drone program. He pretty much thinks that's all the federal government does now.
By the way I don't disagree with you, I think progressives should be much more agressive and outspoken on issues of civil liberties, but your conflation of progressives and centrist democrats doesn't do your cause any favors.
I'm sure that's so, but I think the distinction is important because liberals really aren't in power, the centrists are. They are a member of the democrat's coalition, but not the ruling or dominant ideology, clearly.
i might disagree with him (i dont, on this issual achuly) and i might find him to be someone i find personaly unplessent, and i agree he ought to have filibustered, you know, the war in iraq, for example
however, this is a good cause. so kudos. and bugger the people who seem to want him dead (i want him to lose his seat, but death is a fairly extream way to go about that)
I actually commend him for taking a stand on this issue. This progressive is appalled at the idea that drones could be used to kill a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil.
However, given that this man believes that life begins at conception, that climate change is a construct to end capitalism, that the federal government cannot limit second amendment rights, that social security should be privatized, and last but not least that not only should there be no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants but that the children of illegal immigrants born in the US should also not be granted citizenship, he a grade-A douche-canoe.
Rand Paul is no paragon of civil rights. The comments calling for harming him are uncalled for, the comments suggesting he should have spoken against the Iraq War while in the Senate are, well, dumb. Most of the rest of them aren't well written, but are fairly accurate.
He's right on this issue. I liked his filibuster. He's right to shine more light on an issue more people should be outraged about.
It doesn't change the fact that he's wrong about pretty much everything else, and his other policies make his ranting about individual liberty and the Constitution seem inconsistent at best.
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Date: 2013-03-07 02:53 pm (UTC)"But most people who molest children identify as heterosexual."
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Date: 2013-03-07 11:02 am (UTC)If you want libertarianism to succeed, you might want to quit pounding the same nail over and over again. Cf. John Tchoe. He's just Tickful on hate over the drone program. He pretty much thinks that's all the federal government does now.
Y'all are smarter than that.
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Date: 2013-03-07 03:46 pm (UTC)By the way I don't disagree with you, I think progressives should be much more agressive and outspoken on issues of civil liberties, but your conflation of progressives and centrist democrats doesn't do your cause any favors.
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Date: 2013-03-07 09:00 am (UTC)however, this is a good cause. so kudos. and bugger the people who seem to want him dead (i want him to lose his seat, but death is a fairly extream way to go about that)
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Date: 2013-03-07 01:27 pm (UTC)http://youtu.be/8TZ5cpaPlf4
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Date: 2013-03-07 10:22 am (UTC)Wake me when something of substance happens.
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Date: 2013-03-07 03:41 pm (UTC)However, given that this man believes that life begins at conception, that climate change is a construct to end capitalism, that the federal government cannot limit second amendment rights, that social security should be privatized, and last but not least that not only should there be no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants but that the children of illegal immigrants born in the US should also not be granted citizenship, he a grade-A douche-canoe.
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Date: 2013-03-07 04:33 pm (UTC)It doesn't change the fact that he's wrong about pretty much everything else, and his other policies make his ranting about individual liberty and the Constitution seem inconsistent at best.
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