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[lather2002.livejournal.com]

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[deadpansev.livejournal.com]

I didn't say that you can't join with other people to promote whatever charitable cause you want. Only that by bringing in the government, you lose the legitimacy of charity and instead turn your act of charity into an act of violence. It stops being charity as soon as you threaten people who do not want to contribute.

As for health insurance specifically, if you think that the uninsured who are too well off to qualify for medicaid, really need insurance why don't you join with people to buy it for them? It would not cost nearly as much as trying to nationalize the health insurance industry. Just leave those of us who don't think it is that great of an idea alone.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

If you do not wish to contribute to a nation's collective, you have every right to 1) petition the government for a redress of your grievances, at least in this nation; 2) make absolutely sure you vote in every election possible; 3) leave. Statistics are showing that "screw people who can't afford insurance, I've got mine and I'm not giving up any of my money to save their sorry asses" is an opinion in the vast minority of the range of opinions currently in the US. By this I do not really mean "tough shit, your side lost," but more I'm sorry, you'll just have to learn to deal or to do something other than flail about it on LJ.

[deadpansev.livejournal.com]

Lol yeah. Vote for change! Petition the government or just leave.

If the crips move into my neighborhood and start shaking people down, would you say "try and get a better gang leader into power if you don't like the way they are treating you"? Or maybe you would just say, leave, move to another neighborhood, or the best choice of all "beg the crips to stop shaking you down".

[dwer.livejournal.com]

logical fallacy encountered: the government is not a gang. Conclusion: author is not writing in good faith.

[deadpansev.livejournal.com]

Oh really the government is not a gang? They are the biggest gang around, the fact that they are the biggest gang does not negate the fact that they are a violent gang that rules by threat of violence if you do not wish to pay them their "dues" in return for their "protection".

[dwer.livejournal.com]

The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so. I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it, the People's Money out of their Pockets, tho' only to pay the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the People, is their Creditors' Money, and no longer the Money of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell'd to pay by some Law.

All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.html

[xforge.livejournal.com]

Then what? Sit around and badmouth the status quo on a blog?

Way to participate in your democracy there Skippy.