obligtory

Date: 2009-09-18 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
in soviat russia, joke tells you!

Date: 2009-09-18 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
wow... no teleprompter

Date: 2009-09-18 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
Personal televised address != speaking to crowd

Date: 2009-09-18 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
thank goodness i have other examples, then!

Date: 2009-09-18 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
go do some work before its new year out there

Date: 2009-09-18 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
It sure was hard to type in "Reagan + teleprompter"!

Date: 2009-09-18 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
8 years of presidency ... elderly person... suffering from early Alzheimer...

Date: 2009-09-18 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
So the new argument isn't "he didn't need a teleprompter" but "of course he needed a teleprompter, he was really old!"

Date: 2009-09-18 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
nope

he used teleprompters for some of the longer speeches, otherwise he used his head

Date: 2009-09-18 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
Ahhh... so using a teleprompter is okay when it's a speech, but the speech has to be a certain length.

Date: 2009-09-18 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
Good response to the question!

Date: 2009-09-18 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com
Teleprompters make a person bad... except for all these reasons! I have more excuses for St. Ronnie if you need them... REAGANN fappetyfapfap

Date: 2009-09-19 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypolitik.livejournal.com
http://www.pacdudegames.com/fail

Date: 2009-09-19 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypolitik.livejournal.com
♥!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2009-09-19 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
He used his head? Is that why he made up so many of his "personal stories"?

Date: 2009-09-18 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericcoleman.livejournal.com
So the notes he is reading from on the podium don't count?

Date: 2009-09-18 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
well of course reading something on a podium is totally different than a teleprompter.

Date: 2009-09-18 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robert-johnson.livejournal.com
We know there were teleprompters at that speech of course. Reagan used them all the time. He had great delivery without them as well. He was trained. But I think this picture, even though it's on a bunch of sources, has always looked weird to me. Now keep in mind I am not denying that they are there. You can see them at the end of the full video of the Miller center version of the speech. But the lighting on this picture has always freaked me out.

Date: 2009-09-18 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
Yep.

I'm still not sure what the teleprompter thing is meant to actually accomplish, though. "The President reads words!"? "The President didn't memorize his speech!"? Who knows. I am sure that it is a big deal for some reason or another that I just don't understand.

Date: 2009-09-18 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capthek.livejournal.com
Like almost all of these crazy complaints coming from the right these days, I think it starts in some ill informed joke that just goes on and on and on with little connection to anything of substance. I mean, this is a great example where someone just wanted to post some jokes and another person kneejerk says "no teleprompter" with no actual connection to if it is truth or even matters or anything, right?

Anyway, what is it about them that never allows them to say "oh ya, I guess reading notes is rather common when giving an important speech"?

Date: 2009-09-18 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
i think 90% of the teleprompter pics, especially of older presidents, are shopped. i doubt they even had teleprompters that look coincidentally exactly like the ones obama uses when reagan made that speech.

Date: 2009-09-18 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
this one seems to be authentic, though. i'm not sure a website dedicated to archiving speeches from all Presidents (http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/reagan-parliament.htm) would really lie about it.

It's not exactly the most advanced technology, either. It's two bits of glass that reflect what monitors at the base show.

Date: 2009-09-18 06:26 pm (UTC)
weswilson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] weswilson
Please tell me that you don't think that teleprompter thing is funny/significant/accurate.

Date: 2009-09-18 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
it was a joke ;-)

my view on Obama's teleprompter is about the same as on Bush's use of English language

Date: 2009-09-18 06:32 pm (UTC)
weswilson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] weswilson
But... it's a BAD joke. Bush DID butcher the english language. Obama doesn't rely on a teleprompter any more than other presidents have. Were I to make something up about someone, then have everyone suddenly act like it was the best joke in the world, you'd think we were all deraged... not funny.

Date: 2009-09-18 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
I guess I am used to butchery of language by politicians since my childhood and go not by speeches, but by message itself as well as by actual action taken.

Date: 2009-09-18 06:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] weswilson
That's a legitimate point. I didn't much care that he didn't talk like a great orator, but I did find Bush's condescending, "Don'tcha get it?" attitude to be repellent.

Date: 2009-09-19 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
And that smirk. I remember in 2000, in the early part of the election, it was affecting his numbers, and Rove had to tell him to knock it off.

Date: 2009-09-18 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
ive heard the gorbchove driver joke befor, but with the pope in the us (it dosent realy matter, the jokes all the same)

Date: 2009-09-18 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxrancid-punkxx.livejournal.com
REAGAN SMASH!!

Date: 2009-09-19 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Should have been Rocky Montage music during the punching. Or Yakity Sax (http://james.nerdiphythesoul.com/bennyhillifier/?id=kzx7VEH9YUM).

Date: 2009-09-18 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgseawolf.livejournal.com
Those are some good jokes though. We used to tell the same ones in Poland, just with Polish leaders instead of Russian.

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