Date: 2008-03-07 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com
McCain is pro-life, but he isn't rabid about it.

Date: 2008-03-07 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megiloth.livejournal.com
Exactly. McCain's not known for his extreme pro-life views, therefore it's hard to see the humor here. Maybe if Jesse Helms or Rick Santorum were pictured, I could see where leftists would try to make that association, but it just doesn't work with McCain. Honestly, not a lot of cartoons would work with McCain because there's just not a lot to make fun of. There's a lot to differ with politically, but he's just not a funny guy...sorta like this MrFish fella.

Now that I read the cartoon again, I'm not even sure what the guy is talking aboot. Is it a pro-life argument? Is it a "attack on womens rights" cartoon? Is it a pro-war cartoon? Is it an underhanded attempt to get more women in the military?

This guy stinks.

Date: 2008-03-07 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com
I totally agree. Fish is trying to trying to make several points at once, and he's not doing a very good job.

Date: 2008-03-07 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
But ever since Reagan left office, every candidate has acted as if he cares about what pro-lifers think, when actually not a one of them could care any less if they tried. McCain especially acts all pro-everything-Bush-said-he-stands-for-but-actually-doesn't-either; he's pretty awful.

Date: 2008-03-07 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
I smell democrat fear mongering...I guess you could be Obamas foreign adviser...she wants us to put US troops on the Gaza strip to fight Isreal. LOL.

Date: 2008-03-07 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
http://sandbox.blog-city.com/speaking_truth_to_power.htm

There you go.

Date: 2008-03-07 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltmurdoch.livejournal.com
Yea, well, John McCain wants to actually GIVE North Korea a complete set of nuclear weapons to aim at China and Japan so he can use it as leverage against them in trade negotiations. LOL.

Here's my proof: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/054184f4-6b51-40dd-8964-54fcf66a1e68.htm

Date: 2008-03-07 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Can you find the quote in your article that says that McCain wants to "GIVE North Korea a complete set of nuclear weapons?"

Date: 2008-03-08 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltmurdoch.livejournal.com
Yes, I can. Just as easily as I can find the quote in your source that Samantha Power want US forces to "fight Isreal."

Date: 2008-03-12 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Provide me with the quote.

Date: 2008-03-07 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desidono.livejournal.com
Here's my proof.

http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/964903.html?thread=18751783#t18751783

This means I have won and you have lost. And anything you say from here on out will be a personal attack on me, so don't bother because I've won.
Edited Date: 2008-03-07 10:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-07 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
So I guess your mad that I have proven you wrong again with a documented source that gives quotes.

Date: 2008-03-10 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latenightapathy.livejournal.com
Quotes that say that there should be a solution involving supporting both Israel and Palestine, with a military presence to keep them from each others' throats. Where, pray tell, does she say that the US should attack Israel?

As for the protection force that would go in between the two forces--which is what I assume you meant by "fight Israel"--allow me to clarify what a protection or peacekeeping force does: such forces are not intended to intervene on behalf of one party. They are meant to stand between opposing forces and enforce a moratorium on violence between the two; in theory, they will only respond with force to attacks against them, and will punish violations of the peace via international or judicial means.

So you see (or maybe not), it is not an attack force. It is a preventative measure to prevent violence and human rights violations, of which both sides in Israel-Palestine are guilty. Not just one, both.

As for your source, the idea seems to have originated with Ignatieff, not Power, and even his quote--which you might have seen if you bothered to read all the way through, or perhaps just conveniently missed--says that the purpose of such a force would be "to enforce the solution that provides security for BOTH populations." Just because Israel wouldn't be happy with such a plan does not mean the US would be attacking Israel.

So I guess you'll be mad now that I've proven you wrong with your own semi-credible, word-twisting, fear-mongering source.

Date: 2008-03-12 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Actually the last sentence is were you are wrong. I see nothing wrong with what you said.

Date: 2008-03-07 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cahier-vide.livejournal.com
Credible source?

I don't like Obama, but I don't like Israel even more.

Date: 2008-03-07 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cahier-vide.livejournal.com
The only sources I'm getting are wing-blogs that just say she's anti-Israel.

Date: 2008-03-07 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
http://sandbox.blog-city.com/speaking_truth_to_power.htm

There is your proof. Its got quotes. Why do you hate Isreael?

Date: 2008-03-07 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
I smell shit.

Oh wait, it's just you.

Date: 2008-03-07 05:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-07 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
I smell shit.

Oh wait, it's just you.

Date: 2008-03-10 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latenightapathy.livejournal.com
Your originality is astounding. What's next, "I am rubber you are glue"?

Date: 2008-03-12 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Don't like personal attacks? I thought that was how you debated here.

Date: 2008-03-07 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Yeah, and he's a Muslim and he'll want to be sworn in on the Qu'Ran!! And he's associated with that Mafiosi gangster that supported his campaign in Chicago! And he eats babies!! Yeah!!

Date: 2008-03-07 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
First, hes not a muslim. Second, his religion believes in making "Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind, " who follow the "Black Value System."

These are the facts. Not your attempt at being sarcastic to avoid the truth. Try again.

Date: 2008-03-07 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Believe what you like; I'll be over here NOT smoking CRACK.

Date: 2008-03-07 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Sorry you don't like the facts.

Date: 2008-03-08 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Your facts are not like our Earth facts.

Date: 2008-03-12 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Sorry you don't like the facts.

These are not democrat facts. These are not republican facts. This is the natural truth.

Date: 2008-03-07 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, and I forgot he's nothing but a Louis Farrakhan buttpuppet.

Date: 2008-03-07 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Ah, yes the last defense of the desperate.

Date: 2008-03-08 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
No, the "last defense of the desperate" would be the "I know you are but what am I" you posted above.

Date: 2008-03-12 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Its good to know you still have options then.

Date: 2008-03-07 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com
I don't exactly agree. Hell, they have been ignoring McCain for months now because they're too wrapped up with Hillary vs. Obama.

Date: 2008-03-07 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Well, McCain has won already. The story is in who will tear each other up more...Obama or Clinton. Either way, the longer this goes the worse each of them will look. McCain wins the longer this goes on.

Date: 2008-03-07 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com
That's why I've invested in an esay chair, random DVD's, and popcorn. Nothing exciting will occur on the GOP side for a long time.

Date: 2008-03-07 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j0kerr.livejournal.com
Exactly....don't forget the video games and an xbox.

Date: 2008-03-07 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluetooth16.livejournal.com
I don't play video games, but I have plenty of TV shows on DVD.

Date: 2008-03-07 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wondernews.livejournal.com
clever joke

Date: 2008-03-07 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glenniebun.livejournal.com
I don't think Americans care if we're in utero for one hundred years, one thousand years or ten thousand years.

Date: 2008-03-08 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
He'll be rabid, if that's what it takes to make the Christian Right happy. He's flip-flopped on every moral stand he's ever taken that displeased them.

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