hahhahahahaha!

Date: 2007-11-06 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neonleonb.livejournal.com
I dunno. One George was pretty good (http://youtube.com/watch?v=PsymvcqVc1s).
From: [identity profile] planetmad.livejournal.com
"George Washington never criticized slavery in public. In fact, as President, Washington brought nine household slaves to the Executive Mansion in Philadelphia. By Pennsylvania law, slaves who resided in the state became legally free after six months. Washington rotated his household slaves between Mount Vernon and Philadelphia so that they did not earn their freedom, a scheme he attempted to keep hidden from his slaves and the public and one which was, in fact, against the law."

Oh yes, I forgot what a great guy he was too
From: [identity profile] neonleonb.livejournal.com
Dude, there is no way you watched that video. It is funny shit, and in no way serious. So watch it, then laugh and realize I wasn't actually making any point about George Washington.
From: [identity profile] planetmad.livejournal.com
ok I've watched it all now, (I only managed about 5 secs the first time round)
I don't know how factually correct it is, but it does seem to back up my point.

So any other George's ever had their grubby hands on America? (besides Bush Snr)
From: [identity profile] katieliz.livejournal.com
You don't know how factually correct it is? lol.

In a perfect world, it would all be true.
From: [identity profile] donkeyjon.livejournal.com
If you're going to have a referendum on great men who also happened to own slaves, you're going to be getting rid of a lot of people who are heroes.
From: [identity profile] duckygirl.livejournal.com
Well, those men need to be seen for who they were, warts and all. You can own slaves and still do great things. I don't see the need to deify those men, even though I admire their patriotic, heroic acts.
From: [identity profile] donkeyjon.livejournal.com
I would say that these acts prove that they are human, but their heroic acts show that they managed to transcend their humanity for a time. I don't expect my heroes to be without flaws. I expect flaws. What I want is something else as well.

Were I George Washington, I'd have done exactly the same thing. For him, in that time period, it'd be similar to cheating on your tax returns, and everyone tries to get away with that.
From: [identity profile] planetmad.livejournal.com
It's not only a point about slaves, but George Washington broke the law for his own profit & also tried to hide these actions from the public, sounds familiar?
From: [identity profile] donkeyjon.livejournal.com
Sounds like what every single human being on the planet would do in the same situation. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that everybody is fallible, and breaking a few laws or being a product of your time doesn't turn someone from a hero to a dumbass.

Ghandi was racist and supported the slavery of blacks in South Africa. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves and cheated on his wife with them. That doesn't keep them from also being heroes.
From: [identity profile] wight1984.livejournal.com
"Sounds like what every single human being on the planet would do in the same situation."

I'm sure we've all done things that we're not proud of, or that are wrong, to varying degrees.

I don't think your statement as written is true though.
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
He was also one of the few Christians among the Founding Fathers. The goddamn bastard.

Date: 2007-11-06 03:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-11-07 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
Bolling's one of my favorites. A remarkable cartoonist.

Date: 2007-11-07 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duckygirl.livejournal.com
Hilarious. I love it. Should be on posters across America.

Date: 2007-11-07 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Problems with King George the 2nd?

Date: 2007-11-07 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
They still celebrate his birthday on 4th June at some school just outside Windsor, or is that a different George II?
You guys got your independence under George III, poor genetically mad Hanoverian that he was.
But the new American sequel is going pretty badly thus far. Get the Executive Producers in, and 'phone the insurance company. We need a miracle.

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