Because if the fact that I hate your cartoons and take every shot at them that comes up motivates you to make better cartoons, do better research, or be smarter than your audience, good on you.
Well, believe it or not, I try to make my cartoons better all the time (although part of my effort is focused on things you don't seem to have much interest in, like the drawing aspects). I do sometimes take criticism into account (I just a few minutes ago made some revisions to this cartoon, in response to some criticism I got on another forum -- for comparison's sake, the original version can be viewed here (http://www.amptoons.com/livejournal_images/global_warming_old.png)). However, you're so extreme and over the top that you don't have any credibility with me.
It's telling that, in a thread following a cartoon including a fairly negative depiction of a black woman, you complain that I "worship... everyone black or female." A good example of why I can't take your comments seriously: the kindest interpretation I can think of is, you're responding to some image of me you've built up in your mind, rather than giving my cartoons an open-minded reading.
My extreme dislike of your cartoons and my explosive attitude towards them is largely cartoon violence, a la Yosemite Sam.
Well, believe it or not, I try to make my cartoons better all the time (although part of my effort is focused on things you don't seem to have much interest in, like the drawing aspects).
You're wrong, there. I just don't criticize your art. I don't care for it aesthetically, but I see technique in some of your more recent stuff, and just because your art style doesn't jibe with my tastes doesn't mean I need to bust your balls over how you draw your fuckin' cartoons.
However, you're so extreme and over the top that you don't have any credibility with me.
What, none? Seriously? Man. You're shooting yourself in the foot. Having me dress you down is the sort of thing that people would pay me six figures for and call it "life coaching" if I lived in southern California. I sure am a bastard, but I sure am right. Shit, at least I acknowledge that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
It's telling that, in a thread following a cartoon including a fairly negative depiction of a black woman, you complain that I "worship... everyone black or female." A good example of why I can't take your comments seriously
Well, I could get in to the rather complicated tapestry you seem to weave with your cartoons of depicting Americans of all shades and colors as the self-obsessed, benighted simpletons the rest of the world stereotypes us. But we're not talking about characters, Barry. The fact that you "depict" a black woman as this week's cartoon villain doesn't change anything about the message and tone of your comic work: that message and tone is to depict women and minorities as goddamn living saints whenever the mistreatment of said minority is the cause du jour of your comic. Oh, wait, let me back that up; minorities are okay to shit on if they disagree with you, right? It's not hip in the lib community to make fun of Muslims, but Libertarians are fair game.
the kindest interpretation I can think of is, you're responding to some image of me you've built up in your mind, rather than giving my cartoons an open-minded reading.
Don't flatter yourself. What "image of [you] built up in [my] mind" could I possibly have, Barry? What, you think I'm prejudiced against chubby white gamers from the Pacific Northwest? That rules out a quarter of my friends and myself. The truth is, I picked up 'Attitude 2' at a book store, read through the strips, laughed at some, didn't care for others, and when I got to yours, I nearly cried aloud "This guy is full of shit!"
There was no preconception. I hadn't heard your name before I picked up that otherwise very cool book. And not all of your cartoons are shit. But the ones I read there got me pretty angry, because I thought they were myopic, toadying to everyone who wasn't a white guy, and seemed to imply that as someone who isn't from a minority and doesn't have a vagina that I should somehow share in this feeling of societal guilt or responsibility for the injustices done to those people. Sorry, fucker, it's not happening. I've been on the fucking margins of society since I was born; I don't even have control over my life, let alone anyone else's. And I'll be damned if I'm going to feel guilty or ashamed or indebted to somebody because I happen to share a skin tint with the descendants of the people who did the descendants of the oppressed wrong. Most of my distant family on my mother's side died of fucking heatstroke in Barbados as indentured servants that were kidnapped and shipped on vessels no better than any slave ship to fucking die harvesting sugar can for fat landowners, so you can stick it up your ass.
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Date: 2007-09-06 04:23 pm (UTC)Well, believe it or not, I try to make my cartoons better all the time (although part of my effort is focused on things you don't seem to have much interest in, like the drawing aspects). I do sometimes take criticism into account (I just a few minutes ago made some revisions to this cartoon, in response to some criticism I got on another forum -- for comparison's sake, the original version can be viewed here (http://www.amptoons.com/livejournal_images/global_warming_old.png)). However, you're so extreme and over the top that you don't have any credibility with me.
It's telling that, in a thread following a cartoon including a fairly negative depiction of a black woman, you complain that I "worship... everyone black or female." A good example of why I can't take your comments seriously: the kindest interpretation I can think of is, you're responding to some image of me you've built up in your mind, rather than giving my cartoons an open-minded reading.
Understood. :-)
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Date: 2007-09-07 03:20 pm (UTC)You're wrong, there. I just don't criticize your art. I don't care for it aesthetically, but I see technique in some of your more recent stuff, and just because your art style doesn't jibe with my tastes doesn't mean I need to bust your balls over how you draw your fuckin' cartoons.
However, you're so extreme and over the top that you don't have any credibility with me.
What, none? Seriously? Man. You're shooting yourself in the foot. Having me dress you down is the sort of thing that people would pay me six figures for and call it "life coaching" if I lived in southern California. I sure am a bastard, but I sure am right. Shit, at least I acknowledge that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
It's telling that, in a thread following a cartoon including a fairly negative depiction of a black woman, you complain that I "worship... everyone black or female." A good example of why I can't take your comments seriously
Well, I could get in to the rather complicated tapestry you seem to weave with your cartoons of depicting Americans of all shades and colors as the self-obsessed, benighted simpletons the rest of the world stereotypes us. But we're not talking about characters, Barry. The fact that you "depict" a black woman as this week's cartoon villain doesn't change anything about the message and tone of your comic work: that message and tone is to depict women and minorities as goddamn living saints whenever the mistreatment of said minority is the cause du jour of your comic. Oh, wait, let me back that up; minorities are okay to shit on if they disagree with you, right? It's not hip in the lib community to make fun of Muslims, but Libertarians are fair game.
the kindest interpretation I can think of is, you're responding to some image of me you've built up in your mind, rather than giving my cartoons an open-minded reading.
Don't flatter yourself. What "image of [you] built up in [my] mind" could I possibly have, Barry? What, you think I'm prejudiced against chubby white gamers from the Pacific Northwest? That rules out a quarter of my friends and myself. The truth is, I picked up 'Attitude 2' at a book store, read through the strips, laughed at some, didn't care for others, and when I got to yours, I nearly cried aloud "This guy is full of shit!"
There was no preconception. I hadn't heard your name before I picked up that otherwise very cool book. And not all of your cartoons are shit. But the ones I read there got me pretty angry, because I thought they were myopic, toadying to everyone who wasn't a white guy, and seemed to imply that as someone who isn't from a minority and doesn't have a vagina that I should somehow share in this feeling of societal guilt or responsibility for the injustices done to those people. Sorry, fucker, it's not happening. I've been on the fucking margins of society since I was born; I don't even have control over my life, let alone anyone else's. And I'll be damned if I'm going to feel guilty or ashamed or indebted to somebody because I happen to share a skin tint with the descendants of the people who did the descendants of the oppressed wrong. Most of my distant family on my mother's side died of fucking heatstroke in Barbados as indentured servants that were kidnapped and shipped on vessels no better than any slave ship to fucking die harvesting sugar can for fat landowners, so you can stick it up your ass.