Date: 2006-07-19 08:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-07-19 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappucinogrrl.livejournal.com
Only if the lives are Americans, stem cells, or fetuses.

Date: 2006-07-19 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddityangel.livejournal.com
How does he feel about Middle Eastern stem cells?

Date: 2006-07-19 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hippopotassium.livejournal.com
stem cells are okay unless those wily zygotes grow up to be gay or flag-burners

Date: 2006-07-20 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bearbugs.livejournal.com
He feels that they should die immediately. Hey, it's a pre-emptive attack on possible terrorists-to-be.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaliktsunami.livejournal.com
Bush has reached a new low in idiocy

Date: 2006-07-19 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasblair.livejournal.com
Federal funding should not be used for scientific research, so this bill was appropriately vetoed. As for Iraq, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregstevenstx.livejournal.com
Given that federal funding IS used for scientific research, the bill should not be vetoed. It's fallacious to think that we'll ever get to the nice utopian ideal of completely privately funded research by FIRST cutting funding to some programs based on ideology, and then saying, "Oh, we'll get around to cutting funding from the rest later...."

Date: 2006-07-19 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasblair.livejournal.com
I think it's more wishful thinking than fallacious, but the point remains the same. That the government already spends hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars on things it shouldn't do is no reason to continue to grow this number.

I would prefer this bill to have been vetoed because of its unconstitutionality rather than the ideological position of the President, but the end result is the right result.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregstevenstx.livejournal.com
I'm just curious: you believe that government funding of scientific research is unconstitutional? how so?

I don't think I've heard that argument before.

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Here's a thought on something.

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Date: 2006-07-20 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fleaplus.livejournal.com
There are these things called states...

Date: 2006-07-19 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clownshoes.livejournal.com
What is NASA? Smithsonian? National Science Foundation? Any public university that conducts research?

Surveys done by CNN, Gallupp, and USA Today show a majority of the American public supports stem cell research and would back federal funding for it. Not only that, but David Winston (who officially conducts polls for the Republican majority in the Senate) said that, based on his research, only 25% of Republican voters wanted no more stem cell funding.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasblair.livejournal.com
Just because these agencies and institutions exist doesn't mean that federal funding is appropriate. The Constitution is clear about which limited powers the Congress may exercise.

Date: 2006-07-19 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brutalentropy.livejournal.com
Yes, because I'm sure we'd have a space program if we left funding in the hands of businessmen.

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Irony lives.

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Re: Irony lives.

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Re: Irony lives.

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Re: Irony lives.

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Re: Irony lives.

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Re: Irony lives.

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Date: 2006-07-19 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clownshoes.livejournal.com
Article I, Section 8:

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to...provide for the... general welfare of the United States;"

"To promote the progress of science and useful arts..."

Gosh gee golly wiz! Sounds like curing diseases falls under the catagory of both!

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Date: 2006-07-21 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasblair.livejournal.com
I don't look for sensibility out of this administration. They're nutty to the nth degree.

It was the right decision to veto the bill though.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surfah2docean.livejournal.com
this is a very good one!

Date: 2006-07-19 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ichmagdich.livejournal.com
Brilliant.

Date: 2006-07-19 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] studmuff.livejournal.com
Haha, those people are reading newspapers.

Date: 2006-07-19 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stupiddumbpanda.livejournal.com
Haha, nice. Watching his speech today I had the exact same thought the second the words came out of his mouth.

Date: 2006-07-19 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakurabana1.livejournal.com
Brilliant. Finally, a fabulous cartoon here.

Date: 2006-07-20 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kabandra.livejournal.com
Bingo! Love it!

Date: 2006-07-20 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kabandra.livejournal.com
Do you think any of the Iraqis or 30 people executed in Texas while Bush was president were once frozen fetuses... hehe

Date: 2006-07-20 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkblood777.livejournal.com
Of course he could use the default response "We're playing God®"

YES! WE'VE BEEN PLAYING GOD IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!! WHAT MAKES THIS ANY [censored] DIFFERENT?!

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