It's true that Trump has only been in power officially for two days, but we have been getting a taste of his style and philosophy throughout the transition, and, moreover, it is consistent with the man's whole life: he has always been an unrelenting narcissist that lives under his own orange sky.
As far as "elections propaganda" goes, yeah, I don't count what is said on the campaign trail with the same weights as what is said when in office: everyone promises to save the world and glides over their shortcomings.
I'm not familiar with Rosen and Atkins, and I'll leave it for others to address them, if they want.
Tell you the truth, I really do not want hear from others.
As far as "elections propaganda" goes, yeah, I don't count what is said on the campaign trail with the same weights as what is said when in office I could somewhat agree. But, we are talking about media - they are supposed to report unbiased news and facts. And they did not. I can tell you, Pravda would be amazed the amount of lies, misinformation and propaganda during this election cycle. I am Trump supporter, but at the same time I am not a blind follower. I have no problem with criticism, if it's objective. Not the case with MSM. If you aren't happy with something Trump did, but it's no problem if Obama did the same thing, then I have a problem with that. Equally bashing both sides-I'm all in.
I can't piece together what Madame Nazi means by Atkins here, but Rosen was a journalist investigated by Obama's administration in connection with leaks. It's hard to say what we were or weren't discussing back then (for my part, I'm not sure I was part of this community). In any event, Madame Nazi is unlikely to have any actual recollection of what we may or may not have said about Obama's (admittedly problematic) spying on journalists, so her accusations on that matter should be recognized for the false-equivalence smokescreen that they are.
And that's the real issue here. Not that the Obama Administration investigated reporters. That's SOP. But that in just two days, there have been enough worrying events with the press that instantly paints anything coming out of the Trump White House suspect.
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Date: 2017-01-23 02:14 am (UTC)As far as "elections propaganda" goes, yeah, I don't count what is said on the campaign trail with the same weights as what is said when in office: everyone promises to save the world and glides over their shortcomings.
I'm not familiar with Rosen and Atkins, and I'll leave it for others to address them, if they want.
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Date: 2017-01-23 02:30 am (UTC)As far as "elections propaganda" goes, yeah, I don't count what is said on the campaign trail with the same weights as what is said when in office
I could somewhat agree. But, we are talking about media - they are supposed to report unbiased news and facts. And they did not. I can tell you, Pravda would be amazed the amount of lies, misinformation and propaganda during this election cycle. I am Trump supporter, but at the same time I am not a blind follower. I have no problem with criticism, if it's objective. Not the case with MSM. If you aren't happy with something Trump did, but it's no problem if Obama did the same thing, then I have a problem with that. Equally bashing both sides-I'm all in.
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Date: 2017-01-23 10:33 pm (UTC)And why would you? We're losing patience for your shit.
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Date: 2017-01-24 04:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-23 10:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-24 09:25 pm (UTC)Not that the Obama Administration investigated reporters. That's SOP.
But that in just two days, there have been enough worrying events with the press that instantly paints anything coming out of the Trump White House suspect.