Date: 2014-09-17 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Well, at least he's not talking to the Democrats.

Date: 2014-09-17 03:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-17 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
Does anyone know what some of the context here is?

Date: 2014-09-17 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
That's not al-Baghdadi. It's Mouaz Moustafa.

Date: 2014-09-17 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
http://shoebat.com/2014/08/26/john-mccain-never-met-caliph-al-baghdadi-al-baghdadi-never-cia-mossad-agent-vatican-harlot-babylon/

Date: 2014-09-17 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
Dude, NEVER use Walid Shoebat as a source.

Date: 2014-09-17 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
But but.. his name is Shoebat!

Date: 2014-09-18 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's actually an assumed name so that his former nonexistent "PLO terrorist" homies won't find him under his supposed real name of "Shu’aybat"

Date: 2014-09-18 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
S'all right. :) Would you like to know WHY he is a bad source?

Date: 2014-09-18 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Yes, please.

Date: 2014-09-17 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
Yeah, as farchivist said, Walid Shoebat is kind of terrible. He's an "ex-terrorist" (meaning he's actually a lying scam artist milking the right-wing talk circuit) and is very likely kind of unhinged. He's sort of a convenient mouthpiece the right uses whenever they want to hear something from the "horse's mouth" to validate their preconcieved notions.

Date: 2014-09-17 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Right. Funny how the neoconservatives tend to change the closer they get to living in their policies aftermaths (http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/2/as_jury_takes_up_blackwater_massacre).

Date: 2014-09-17 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Did he gain weight and get a nose job?

Date: 2014-09-17 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Here is his article about it:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/17/rand-paul-eats-up-those-long-debunked-mccain-isis-rumors.html

Date: 2014-09-17 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cypukambl.livejournal.com
No one could expect him to turn against America. That was absolutely unpredictable. Absolutely. Unprecedented.

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Date: 2014-09-17 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
+1 Great find. I trust this is real.

Date: 2014-09-17 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cypukambl.livejournal.com
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/antisoviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-now-uses-them-for-largescale-building-projects-in-sudan-robert-fisk-met-him-in-almatig-1465715.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/antisoviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-now-uses-them-for-largescale-building-projects-in-sudan-robert-fisk-met-him-in-almatig-1465715.html)

Date: 2014-09-17 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Real.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/antisoviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-now-uses-them-for-largescale-building-projects-in-sudan-robert-fisk-met-him-in-almatig-1465715.html

Thanks Charlie Wilson.

"What is more important in world history? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some agitated Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?" - Zbigniew Brzezinski.


At what cost?

Date: 2014-09-17 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planet-x-zero.livejournal.com
That is chilling.

Date: 2014-09-19 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
Even as misanthropic as I am, I cannot believe that our leaders don't understand what their meddling will lead to. The inescapable conclusion is that endless war is the desired outcome. Eisenhower warned us...

Date: 2014-09-17 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Moar:

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I dunno. This type of stuff reminds me of rabbit hole media wars. I never thought Fonda was evil for being photographed with the NVA, so I would extend a benefit of the doubt here. I want them talking with unsavory characters, ya feel me?

Date: 2014-09-17 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
I want them talking with unsavory characters, ya feel me?

You... you... you...unspeakable advocate of diplomacy.

Date: 2014-09-17 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Certain forms of it. McCain is likely trying to negotiate arms deals in those shots and I am highly opposed to offering any mujaheddin weapons, moderate or no. I would advocate putting American boots on the ground before I would support arming militias.

Date: 2014-09-17 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Sometimes negotiations require one party or both to adopt extreme positions to start with.

Alas, I fear that the "Caliphate" has extreme positions not dictated by negotiation strategy...more of a political and life choice.

Date: 2014-09-17 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I feel the same.

I don't get McCain. He really should know better. Oh well. Someone told me he ratted on the older soldiers under torture, his nickname was “Songbird". No idea if that's true or not. Oh well, I'd break under torture, I think.

Date: 2014-09-17 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Everyone breaks under torture...eventually. It's the false positives in time-critical situations which make torture useless.

McCain was tortured for months. That's time enough for an imaginative torturer to break anyone: and I mean anyone.

Date: 2014-09-17 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Ya know, you're right. That was crass of me.

Date: 2014-09-19 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
True. Talking shouldn't mean selling weapons to, though.

Date: 2014-09-18 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Palin' around with terrorists...

Date: 2014-09-20 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beyondfake-0.livejournal.com
....what does Palin have to do with this??! Nothing! Did you think of that!? Pffft liberals.

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