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Date: 2014-06-21 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
excellent link!

Date: 2014-06-21 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
this

Date: 2014-06-21 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
That's a remarkable tool they've put together. There must be literally 1000s of work hours involved.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
citation needed...since that is an extremely loose interpretation of the discussion I remember.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Meh, he has a degree in philosophy, and posts in an altered consciousness at least half the time, so he really could be an expert...on something.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I don't doubt you work hard. I'm just curious and not saying this a solution, if health insurance so important for you, why don't you work for a corporation?
Here is an interesting fact - I always had an health insurance even when I didn't work, I was buying it and it was absolutely affordable. Now, when I have a pretty descent job, but couldn't afford it on my own. But let try to figure out what happen in between.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
In 50-es LSD was prescribed by doctors, I think for exact same reasons. I am not going to pretend that I know anything about this subject. However, my approach is - be very careful about what you do with your body.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
"Now you totally confused me'

You are not alone, he is in a league of his own, and quite possibly the only "true" progressive I've ever met! :D

Date: 2014-06-21 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
That's an interesting view. Why the heck I need money if not for my children?

Date: 2014-06-21 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
You don't know what you're talking about. What this has to do with ignorance? Most of the women live for their children and it is an attitude. Ask your mother.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Actually, you never grew up.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Everybody has to do it, but it's not easy at all.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I thought you're not going to talk to me anymore.
Actually, I am sorry for saying silly things to you.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Of course, we all are biased. Everybody's zero in the grid is in different place, and everybody thinks his zero positioned the best. That is natural.

Date: 2014-06-21 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Yes, of course you are an expert on the topic, because you were able to find an article somewhere.
Who the heck created the problem. Majority of the people without insurance are the illegals, who were lured here by the same politicians. Have you ever been in ER?

Date: 2014-06-21 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wight1984.livejournal.com
It's natural, but that doesn't mean good. Everyone has bias but we also have the possibility to be aware of our bias, to compensate for them and attempt to lessen their impact. We certainly shouldn't give our bias free reign.

Given awareness that the hostile media effect is such a widespread phenomenom, I think it's sensible to be suspicious of our own (or any other individual's) ability to judge media bias except in the most overt and obvious cases.

I don't watch American news and I rather get the feeling that a lot / most American news is sensationalist and often partisan, so I do think that political bias is a problem in American news and sometimes it may be obvious; would anyone deny that Fox News is biased towards the right wing? However, when you want to claim that American news -in general- has a political bias... well, I'd advise caution.

Date: 2014-06-22 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Ask Hitler's mother.

Date: 2014-06-22 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deborahkla.livejournal.com
At age 56, I'm flattered.

Date: 2014-06-22 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deborahkla.livejournal.com
you think it started 40 years ago.
No, I said I'd lived with it for over 40 years. I'm 56 years old and I've been politically aware since Nixon was elected in 1968. My late father was victimized by the right wing during the McCarthy years, which goes back 60 years, so I'm aware that the polarization has been around for some time.

As long as we are a two-party country, there are only two camps, and as a woman I know which one is on my side. Sorry, but everyone I know who doesn't recognize the difference between them doesn't vote at all, which is hardly productive.

You can say whatever you like--you haven't lived what I've lived through, and you're not going to get me to be all hearts and roses towards the other side in the hope that we can find common ground. As far as they're concerned, unless you love Jesus, don't believe in global warming or evolution, you're not worth listening to. So fuck them.

Date: 2014-06-22 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
I have 30 years of experience handling group health care insurance. So yeah, I pretty much am an expert. You want to know about ACA, credible coverage, COBRA, health care exchanges, group health care exchanges, the actuarial work that goes into the construction of group policies, price modeling of insurance offerings for small, medium and large international companies - I've done all of this and more.

On the other hand, I'd like to see a single citation other than Fox News supporting your many ignorant statements.

The majority of people without insurance are the illegals? Where did you get this one from? Citation please. Or did you just pull this one out of your ass? See, maybe if you actually looked things up, you would know that you are wrong. https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/rumor-uninsured-illegal-aliens-use-more-health-care-uninsured-native-born-americans (https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/rumor-uninsured-illegal-aliens-use-more-health-care-uninsured-native-born-americans) And the ACA specifically excludes coverage for illegal immigrants regardless of whether a state accepted funds for expanded Medicaid.

I'm really sick of you just stating bullshit without bothering to support your statements. It's time for you to put up, or shut up.

Date: 2014-06-22 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I heard about you. I think you don't have too many fans around here.
Actually, all the liberals are experts on everything, everybody else is just ignorant. E.g. if they say that love their children, they only show their ignorance.

Date: 2014-06-22 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Exactly, "Russians love their children too". When was it, around 85?

Date: 2014-06-22 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
Actually FNC has Geraldo, Williams, Colmes, Beckel that are liberals. On the contrary, as far as I remember, there are no conservatives on any other network. Beck was on CNN a few years backs. Like 10 years ago it wasn't this bad, they had conservatives. Now, again as far as I remember, the only one is Scarborough. You tell me now if there is a bias in the media.

Date: 2014-06-22 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com
I can get you citations from Rush or Savage. Would you like some? Where is the support of your statements? O yes, of course, you said that you are an expert. Now I'm totally convinced.
Which year is now? 5 years after 2009. Is there more immigrants or less? What is the birth rate for them? Is the percentage of uninsured immigrants increasing?

Date: 2014-06-22 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelcerv25.livejournal.com
My mother threw me in a dumpster. I grew up in group homes. You're an ignorant fool and you only speak for yourself and you know it. Stop acting like you know what anyone else would want. Because it's certainly not fucking children.
Edited Date: 2014-06-22 07:41 am (UTC)
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