It's clear you guys are uncomfortable with approaching women. And you rationalize it by calling it sexual harassment.
It's really weird that you think I'm doing something wrong for pursuing a romantic interest honestly, with clear intent, and without apology when it's actually normal social behavior.
You're not children. You're adults. It's perfectly fine to address adults with adult interests. There isn't a single girl that parts company with me thinking, "Is he going to rape me?" Because I'm clear in my intent, the lady realizes I'm interested in fulfilling her desires, otherwise I wouldn't be there trying to figure out what they are. If her desire happens to be a lack of reciprocation to a romantic encounter, that's perfectly fine, and I honor that, i.e. we part ways.
And guess what? No one gets hurt. No one gets disrespected. She goes on with her day knowing that she is desired, and I go on my day without any regret. In fact, I might even be thanked for it.
The only reason you don't think women will respect that sort of honesty is because you've never done it. No, women value my honesty, they appreciate the compliment, and respect my desire to be forthright with them. There is no question in their mind as to what I'm about. Thus, they have no reason to be afraid of me or afraid of being with me.
The fact that you even think I'm being disrespectful because I have a romantic desire and act on it is weird. It's supposed to be fun and exciting.
All in all, if you're comfortable with your sexuality, they'll be comfortable with your sexuality. If you're comfortable with expressing yourself openly and honestly, they'll be comfortable with expressing themselves openly and honestly.
That's normal social behavior. I'm not wishy-washy with women. And because of that, they're comfortable with me.
You're not children. You're adults. It's perfectly fine to address adults with adult interests. There isn't a single girl that parts company with me thinking
Calling women "girls" made me presume you were a teenager.
If her desire happens to be a lack of reciprocation to a romantic encounter, that's perfectly fine, and I honor that, i.e. we part ways.
Nice that you "honour" consensual behaviour. That's minimal acceptable behaviour, by the way. However there is also something to be said for timing. Not everyone considers all sexual interest a compliment at all times. When you suggest that everyone likes it and everyone thinks it a compliment to be hit on, you are very wrong. Sometimes people just want to be able to move around in public without being the object of others desires.
Try to value other peoples opinions and avoid ascribing your own opinion onto others. Don't presume facts (like who has approached women, who is virgin, etc) without supporting evidence. This approach is not serving you well.
I don't waste my time trying to presume what people think before speaking to them. You apparently find virtue in being sexually repressed and treat your sexual desires like it's some sort of taboo. I embrace mine and deal with them responsibly. Part of that is approaching women who arouse my interests. If you think there is something wrong with that, that's you projecting your values on me. And, I don't care for your misery. I like to have fun and enjoy the company of women. If you find that to be socially awkward, then again, you're simply projecting your own insecurities.
And all your responses to what I've been saying here tell me just how awkward the concept of approaching women is to you.
You apparently find virtue in being sexually repressed and treat your sexual desires like it's some sort of taboo.
Because the appreciating the fact that not everyone digs being hit on at all times equates to taboo? C'mon.
And all your responses to what I've been saying here tell me just how awkward the concept of approaching women is to you.
When anyone tries to tell you anything you attack their sexuality. This is a fairly childish response. My sexuality has nothing to do with the fact that not everyone likes to be hit on at all times. If you think that everyone thinks your advances are complimentary, which you clearly seem to espouse, you are mistaken. You can absorb that concept without trying to diminish my sexuality. Otherwise, next you'll be saying your cock is bigger.
Your whole self-righteous attitude is white knighting you out of approaching women. Be honest with yourself, you're uncomfortable with approaching women because you're too worried whether or not your advances will be appreciated, let alone reciprocated.
I don't worry about that because there is no reason for me to worry about it.
For me, it would be no different than seeing you in a gamestop and starting a conversation with you about world of warcraft or w/e is popular these days.
But, because the topic is in regards to romance, all of a sudden it's awkward for you. So, yes, I find that to be an insecurity of yours. Now, you can take that as an attack, or you can take that as objective criticism. I don't really care. I only brought these points up to help a guy out because he was unsure of how to approach women in a socially acceptable manner.
The only people that have a problem with this type of behavior are anti-social people. And that refers to both the approacher and the approachee. So, I'm just trying to help the guy get out of his head because in reality, it is perfectly alright to approach women for a romantic relationship.
All your shitty hyperboles, "at all times;" "Lesbians/grandmas/etc" (even though you edited that post) only serve to dumb down this conversation. And, you're not dumb. But, you are talking yourself out of opportunities to meet women. And, it is clear that you're looking for any excuse to not approach women.
Again, you can assume that's an attack on you if you like. I don't care. But, like I said, if you're uncomfortable with it, women will pick up on it and then instinctively be uncomfortable with it too.
All this boils down to is being comfortable with one's own sexuality.
Why would I find that instructive? It has nothing to do with what I've been saying. But it has everything to do with how you interpreted what I've said. The fact that this is where you go with what I said says a lot more about you than it does about what I've actually said here.
I was focusing on the latter part of the video, in which they are talking about how men think they are being Mr. Cool and Mr. Romantic and thinking that the women are getting into it and are flattered, and how women really don't think much of random guys coming up to them on the street for sex. Maybe that is an accepted custom in night clubs, when you offer to dance or buy a woman a drink, and then move from there, but the street is certainly not the place for it, where women are just busy trying to get to work or whatever. I'm not with you when you are doing this, and I guess anything is possible, but you might want to consider whether you are fooling yourself.
All your shitty hyperboles, "at all times;" "Lesbians/grandmas/etc" (even though you edited that post) only serve to dumb down this conversation. And, you're not dumb.
Because lesbians and married women dont exist? Those examples are not exaggeration ("hyperboles"), rather actual examples of women who would NOT take your sexually motivated advances as a compliment and would prefer to be left alone.
But, you are talking yourself out of opportunities to meet women. And, it is clear that you're looking for any excuse to not approach women
This topic has absolutely nothing to do with me or my sexuality. Trying to avoid the point by mentioning my sexuality is childish, as I have said before. You're also so hilariously off base that I think you're just trolling.
Dude. Some people don't want you hitting on them. If you are too egotistical to grok that fact, I pity you and the people you will harass. Enjoy your life, because its got some lessons in store for ya.
you're uncomfortable with approaching women because you're too worried whether or not your advances will be appreciated, let alone reciprocated.
And what, exactly, do you do when a woman reacts negatively to your "Girl, climb on into my BANG BUS!" approach?
And please, forgo comments about how you wouldn't be so "crude". Polite or not, that's the entire goal of your interaction. How you express it is irrelevant.
For me, it would be no different than seeing you in a gamestop and starting a conversation with you about world of warcraft or w/e is popular these days.
My response: "Do I know you?" "No." "Then why are you talking to me, exactly?" "Well, I--" "I don't know you. Fuck off and leave me the hell alone."
The only people that have a problem with this type of behavior are anti-social people.
No, I'm not anti-social, but thanks for playing. I don't know anyone who likes to be accosted randomly by complete strangers. I'd rather get strip-searched by the police.
Then you will not approach me as you have no reason to do so, now will you?
How presumptuous of you to think that every guy approaching you automatically likes you.
1) I don't presume people, men or women, automatically like me when they approach me. I question why they are approaching me at all when I didn't tell them to do so. I don't approach other people without clear invitation to do so; why the fuck are they approaching me?
2) Getting people to climb onto your bang bus doesn't require you to like people. Fucking people doesn't require any emotion at all, so a presuming of "you like me" is nowhere in the equation.
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Date: 2014-05-30 05:50 pm (UTC)The point is that there are forms of sexual attention that are non consensual and therefore inappropriate and unwelcome.
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Date: 2014-05-30 01:46 pm (UTC)Interesting.
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Date: 2014-05-30 03:49 pm (UTC)It's clear you guys are uncomfortable with approaching women. And you rationalize it by calling it sexual harassment.
It's really weird that you think I'm doing something wrong for pursuing a romantic interest honestly, with clear intent, and without apology when it's actually normal social behavior.
You're not children. You're adults. It's perfectly fine to address adults with adult interests. There isn't a single girl that parts company with me thinking, "Is he going to rape me?" Because I'm clear in my intent, the lady realizes I'm interested in fulfilling her desires, otherwise I wouldn't be there trying to figure out what they are. If her desire happens to be a lack of reciprocation to a romantic encounter, that's perfectly fine, and I honor that, i.e. we part ways.
And guess what? No one gets hurt. No one gets disrespected. She goes on with her day knowing that she is desired, and I go on my day without any regret. In fact, I might even be thanked for it.
The only reason you don't think women will respect that sort of honesty is because you've never done it. No, women value my honesty, they appreciate the compliment, and respect my desire to be forthright with them. There is no question in their mind as to what I'm about. Thus, they have no reason to be afraid of me or afraid of being with me.
The fact that you even think I'm being disrespectful because I have a romantic desire and act on it is weird. It's supposed to be fun and exciting.
All in all, if you're comfortable with your sexuality, they'll be comfortable with your sexuality. If you're comfortable with expressing yourself openly and honestly, they'll be comfortable with expressing themselves openly and honestly.
That's normal social behavior. I'm not wishy-washy with women. And because of that, they're comfortable with me.
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Date: 2014-05-30 04:19 pm (UTC)Calling women "girls" made me presume you were a teenager.
If her desire happens to be a lack of reciprocation to a romantic encounter, that's perfectly fine, and I honor that, i.e. we part ways.
Nice that you "honour" consensual behaviour. That's minimal acceptable behaviour, by the way. However there is also something to be said for timing. Not everyone considers all sexual interest a compliment at all times. When you suggest that everyone likes it and everyone thinks it a compliment to be hit on, you are very wrong. Sometimes people just want to be able to move around in public without being the object of others desires.
Try to value other peoples opinions and avoid ascribing your own opinion onto others. Don't presume facts (like who has approached women, who is virgin, etc) without supporting evidence. This approach is not serving you well.
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Date: 2014-05-30 04:51 pm (UTC)And all your responses to what I've been saying here tell me just how awkward the concept of approaching women is to you.
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Date: 2014-05-30 05:14 pm (UTC)Because the appreciating the fact that not everyone digs being hit on at all times equates to taboo? C'mon.
And all your responses to what I've been saying here tell me just how awkward the concept of approaching women is to you.
When anyone tries to tell you anything you attack their sexuality. This is a fairly childish response. My sexuality has nothing to do with the fact that not everyone likes to be hit on at all times. If you think that everyone thinks your advances are complimentary, which you clearly seem to espouse, you are mistaken. You can absorb that concept without trying to diminish my sexuality. Otherwise, next you'll be saying your cock is bigger.
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Date: 2014-05-31 03:38 am (UTC)I don't worry about that because there is no reason for me to worry about it.
For me, it would be no different than seeing you in a gamestop and starting a conversation with you about world of warcraft or w/e is popular these days.
But, because the topic is in regards to romance, all of a sudden it's awkward for you. So, yes, I find that to be an insecurity of yours. Now, you can take that as an attack, or you can take that as objective criticism. I don't really care. I only brought these points up to help a guy out because he was unsure of how to approach women in a socially acceptable manner.
The only people that have a problem with this type of behavior are anti-social people. And that refers to both the approacher and the approachee. So, I'm just trying to help the guy get out of his head because in reality, it is perfectly alright to approach women for a romantic relationship.
All your shitty hyperboles, "at all times;" "Lesbians/grandmas/etc" (even though you edited that post) only serve to dumb down this conversation. And, you're not dumb. But, you are talking yourself out of opportunities to meet women. And, it is clear that you're looking for any excuse to not approach women.
Again, you can assume that's an attack on you if you like. I don't care. But, like I said, if you're uncomfortable with it, women will pick up on it and then instinctively be uncomfortable with it too.
All this boils down to is being comfortable with one's own sexuality.
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Date: 2014-05-31 04:33 am (UTC)Howling at women is not approaching women.
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Date: 2014-05-31 02:51 pm (UTC)Because lesbians and married women dont exist? Those examples are not exaggeration ("hyperboles"), rather actual examples of women who would NOT take your sexually motivated advances as a compliment and would prefer to be left alone.
But, you are talking yourself out of opportunities to meet women. And, it is clear that you're looking for any excuse to not approach women
This topic has absolutely nothing to do with me or my sexuality. Trying to avoid the point by mentioning my sexuality is childish, as I have said before. You're also so hilariously off base that I think you're just trolling.
Dude. Some people don't want you hitting on them. If you are too egotistical to grok that fact, I pity you and the people you will harass. Enjoy your life, because its got some lessons in store for ya.
I figure you're just trolling anyway.
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Date: 2014-06-01 01:04 pm (UTC)And what, exactly, do you do when a woman reacts negatively to your "Girl, climb on into my BANG BUS!" approach?
And please, forgo comments about how you wouldn't be so "crude". Polite or not, that's the entire goal of your interaction. How you express it is irrelevant.
For me, it would be no different than seeing you in a gamestop and starting a conversation with you about world of warcraft or w/e is popular these days.
My response:
"Do I know you?"
"No."
"Then why are you talking to me, exactly?"
"Well, I--"
"I don't know you. Fuck off and leave me the hell alone."
The only people that have a problem with this type of behavior are anti-social people.
No, I'm not anti-social, but thanks for playing. I don't know anyone who likes to be accosted randomly by complete strangers. I'd rather get strip-searched by the police.
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Date: 2014-06-01 07:13 pm (UTC)Is it now? What if I don't like you? How presumptuous of you to think that every guy approaching you automatically likes you.
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Date: 2014-06-01 07:17 pm (UTC)That is what you stated, yes.
What if I don't like you
Then you will not approach me as you have no reason to do so, now will you?
How presumptuous of you to think that every guy approaching you automatically likes you.
1) I don't presume people, men or women, automatically like me when they approach me. I question why they are approaching me at all when I didn't tell them to do so. I don't approach other people without clear invitation to do so; why the fuck are they approaching me?
2) Getting people to climb onto your bang bus doesn't require you to like people. Fucking people doesn't require any emotion at all, so a presuming of "you like me" is nowhere in the equation.
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Date: 2014-05-30 05:57 pm (UTC)You can keep saying that women appreciate random dudes walking up to them and trying to flirt, but they generally don't.