Date: 2014-05-30 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
Yes, they do get a say. It's right after I express myself. I'm not ashamed of it. You clearly are ashamed of your sexual desires.

Date: 2014-05-30 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
I don't think you're classy enough to afford me.

Date: 2014-05-30 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
Pretty sure you got that backwards.

Date: 2014-05-31 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Backwards will cost you extra.

Date: 2014-05-30 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
So they don't get a say in you just waddling up and hitting on them to begin with?

Interesting.

Date: 2014-05-30 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
What am I penguin? Maybe that's how you walk.

It's clear you guys are uncomfortable with approaching women. And you rationalize it by calling it sexual harassment.

It's really weird that you think I'm doing something wrong for pursuing a romantic interest honestly, with clear intent, and without apology when it's actually normal social behavior.

You're not children. You're adults. It's perfectly fine to address adults with adult interests. There isn't a single girl that parts company with me thinking, "Is he going to rape me?" Because I'm clear in my intent, the lady realizes I'm interested in fulfilling her desires, otherwise I wouldn't be there trying to figure out what they are. If her desire happens to be a lack of reciprocation to a romantic encounter, that's perfectly fine, and I honor that, i.e. we part ways.

And guess what? No one gets hurt. No one gets disrespected. She goes on with her day knowing that she is desired, and I go on my day without any regret. In fact, I might even be thanked for it.

The only reason you don't think women will respect that sort of honesty is because you've never done it. No, women value my honesty, they appreciate the compliment, and respect my desire to be forthright with them. There is no question in their mind as to what I'm about. Thus, they have no reason to be afraid of me or afraid of being with me.

The fact that you even think I'm being disrespectful because I have a romantic desire and act on it is weird. It's supposed to be fun and exciting.

All in all, if you're comfortable with your sexuality, they'll be comfortable with your sexuality. If you're comfortable with expressing yourself openly and honestly, they'll be comfortable with expressing themselves openly and honestly.

That's normal social behavior. I'm not wishy-washy with women. And because of that, they're comfortable with me.









Date: 2014-05-30 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
I don't waste my time trying to presume what people think before speaking to them. You apparently find virtue in being sexually repressed and treat your sexual desires like it's some sort of taboo. I embrace mine and deal with them responsibly. Part of that is approaching women who arouse my interests. If you think there is something wrong with that, that's you projecting your values on me. And, I don't care for your misery. I like to have fun and enjoy the company of women. If you find that to be socially awkward, then again, you're simply projecting your own insecurities.

And all your responses to what I've been saying here tell me just how awkward the concept of approaching women is to you.

Date: 2014-05-30 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
JUST ADULTS TALKIN ABOUT ADULT THINGS.

Date: 2014-05-30 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
I AM AN ADULT AND I TALK ABOUT MY CROTCH ALL.THE.TIME. WATCH ME DO ADULT THINGS – EAT BURGERS WHEN I WANT AND TALK CROTCH TO LADIES. HEY LADIES!

Date: 2014-05-31 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
Your whole self-righteous attitude is white knighting you out of approaching women. Be honest with yourself, you're uncomfortable with approaching women because you're too worried whether or not your advances will be appreciated, let alone reciprocated.

I don't worry about that because there is no reason for me to worry about it.

For me, it would be no different than seeing you in a gamestop and starting a conversation with you about world of warcraft or w/e is popular these days.

But, because the topic is in regards to romance, all of a sudden it's awkward for you. So, yes, I find that to be an insecurity of yours. Now, you can take that as an attack, or you can take that as objective criticism. I don't really care. I only brought these points up to help a guy out because he was unsure of how to approach women in a socially acceptable manner.

The only people that have a problem with this type of behavior are anti-social people. And that refers to both the approacher and the approachee. So, I'm just trying to help the guy get out of his head because in reality, it is perfectly alright to approach women for a romantic relationship.

All your shitty hyperboles, "at all times;" "Lesbians/grandmas/etc" (even though you edited that post) only serve to dumb down this conversation. And, you're not dumb. But, you are talking yourself out of opportunities to meet women. And, it is clear that you're looking for any excuse to not approach women.

Again, you can assume that's an attack on you if you like. I don't care. But, like I said, if you're uncomfortable with it, women will pick up on it and then instinctively be uncomfortable with it too.

All this boils down to is being comfortable with one's own sexuality.



Date: 2014-05-31 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
You might find this instructive:


Date: 2014-05-31 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
Why would I find that instructive? It has nothing to do with what I've been saying. But it has everything to do with how you interpreted what I've said. The fact that this is where you go with what I said says a lot more about you than it does about what I've actually said here.

Howling at women is not approaching women.

Date: 2014-05-31 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
I was focusing on the latter part of the video, in which they are talking about how men think they are being Mr. Cool and Mr. Romantic and thinking that the women are getting into it and are flattered, and how women really don't think much of random guys coming up to them on the street for sex. Maybe that is an accepted custom in night clubs, when you offer to dance or buy a woman a drink, and then move from there, but the street is certainly not the place for it, where women are just busy trying to get to work or whatever. I'm not with you when you are doing this, and I guess anything is possible, but you might want to consider whether you are fooling yourself.

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Date: 2014-06-01 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
you're uncomfortable with approaching women because you're too worried whether or not your advances will be appreciated, let alone reciprocated.

And what, exactly, do you do when a woman reacts negatively to your "Girl, climb on into my BANG BUS!" approach?

And please, forgo comments about how you wouldn't be so "crude". Polite or not, that's the entire goal of your interaction. How you express it is irrelevant.

For me, it would be no different than seeing you in a gamestop and starting a conversation with you about world of warcraft or w/e is popular these days.

My response:
"Do I know you?"
"No."
"Then why are you talking to me, exactly?"
"Well, I--"
"I don't know you. Fuck off and leave me the hell alone."

The only people that have a problem with this type of behavior are anti-social people.

No, I'm not anti-social, but thanks for playing. I don't know anyone who likes to be accosted randomly by complete strangers. I'd rather get strip-searched by the police.
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Date: 2014-06-01 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigron-x.livejournal.com
"That's the entire goal of your interaction."

Is it now? What if I don't like you? How presumptuous of you to think that every guy approaching you automatically likes you.




Date: 2014-06-01 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
Is it now?

That is what you stated, yes.

What if I don't like you

Then you will not approach me as you have no reason to do so, now will you?

How presumptuous of you to think that every guy approaching you automatically likes you.

1) I don't presume people, men or women, automatically like me when they approach me. I question why they are approaching me at all when I didn't tell them to do so. I don't approach other people without clear invitation to do so; why the fuck are they approaching me?

2) Getting people to climb onto your bang bus doesn't require you to like people. Fucking people doesn't require any emotion at all, so a presuming of "you like me" is nowhere in the equation.

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Date: 2014-05-30 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
She goes on with her day knowing that she is desired, and I go on my day without any regret. In fact, I might even be thanked for it.

You can keep saying that women appreciate random dudes walking up to them and trying to flirt, but they generally don't.

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