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Well, when Fox News gets done bringing on idiots who try to pin blame on homosexual impulses, I'm sure they'll just wring their hands helplessly and say there's nothing that can be done.

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bonesnapdeez.livejournal.com

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this,36131/

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kadaria.livejournal.com

"Who's the alpha male now bitches?"

I am and remain. One thing I never understood about identifying as feminist was the apparent hatred of guns across the spectrum and the expectation of non-violence. For me personally, they are only a tool that will give me reach, speed and power over an attacker. I can own a gun and fully recognize that someone is wrong for trying to hurt me and that it is their job to police themselves rather than mine to be hyper vigilante.
I am sad and confused that this sorry excuse for a human saw guns in the same way that I do; as a tool for equality.

Maybe if someone had taken the time to teach him that he was never entitled to "a hot babe" or that he was only in his early twenties and still had plenty of time to meet someone or to get off the stupid websites and talk to women like they are people things may have been different. Or perhaps people did and it simply wasn't heeded.

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If someone chooses to attack you, either it's a fight, in which case you don't have the right to murder them, or they are planning to kill you, and a gun isn't going to save you because they'll just off you before you know you're dead. There's rare cases where a gun is going to save you. I'm sorry to burst your macho fantasy.

Ronald Reagan was surrounded by people with guns and really damn well trained to use them. He still got shot.

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I was about to say this. The only thing I would add is that there's a lot more women shot by men than the reverse.

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kadaria.livejournal.com

What part of my comment indicated that I honestly thought that a gun would solve all of my safety problems?

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usekh.livejournal.com

If you have a gun the odds are greater that it will taken from you and used against you than you will successfully defend yourself with it.

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But what about when the Clanton brothers come for you?

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kadaria.livejournal.com

So then what am I supposed to do?
If I try to use a weapon, it will just get taken from me and used against me.
If I fight an attacker and lose, I obviously didn't fight hard enough and will be in just as much legal trouble as the attacker.
If I choose to not fight, then I must have wanted to be attacked.
If I get attacked, then it must have been the way I was walking/dressed/behaving that provoked it.

Avoidence is obviously my top priority but it's not always an option. By the way thank for this "enlightening comment which I have never ever heard before" but I have made my choice.

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farchivist.livejournal.com

So then what am I supposed to do?

I've always found running to be pretty damned effective. Even if it is not my first inclination.

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My old 9th Dan Korean teacher said the same thing.

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Then how come rapists and murderers with guns don't have them taken away from them and used against them?

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Because they lost their conscience a long time ago,
if they ever had one, and are aggressors.

Most people have not lost that innocence that makes
it difficult to grab a gun and shoot someone.

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LOL riiiiiight.

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Not everyone has been through the military, dude.

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Disarming people isn't part of standard military training. Nor as my martial arts instructors were quick to point out, a generally good idea. The person with the knife or gun has a decided advantage even if surprise is removed from the equation.

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I think he was in Special Forces, but we were talking
about how most homeowners with a gun are more likely
to have that gun taken from them than to actually use
it successfully, and how a proven murderer/rapist is likely
to be more successful with a gun.

I would pick the experienced murderer over the homeowner
rushing to get his gun and using it successfully.

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I received exactly no training in disarming anyone. I mean other than watching Jet Li in Lethal Weapon 4.

Edited Date: 2014-05-30 07:24 pm (UTC)

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And he still ended up dead.

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heh

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Americans are the most belligerent people on the planet and you're telling me they're too passive and weak to use a gun without having it taken away from them and used against them... except for a specific criminal class which, for some psychological reason, is capable of maintaining control over their weapons when they commit crimes. We're talking about the masses of people -- who watch violent movies all the time, play violent video games, play and watch violent sports, drool over war, glorify the military and cops, and make shows like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones the most popular ever.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Almost NO ONE is going to have his or her gun taken away and used against him or her, military/police training or no.

This is hilariously silly.

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We're talking about the masses of people -- who watch violent movies all the time, play violent video games, play and watch violent sports, drool over war, glorify the military and cops, and make shows like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones the most popular ever.

Fantasy is one thing; reality an other. Consider, on an other issue, whether the government ought to prohibit violence in video games and movies, are you saying the government should do so, since it has such strong conclusive effects on our behavior?

Though, the original argument about a citizen being more likely to have his gun taken from him might not be limited to the gun being taken out of his hand, but from his possession, taken from the drawer or wherever. I can see that you might dismiss that, too, and perhaps with some good reason, but remember that the full argument also includes the gun being used in suicides, or in cases where one kills accidentally, as when a child comes across it. Of course, one can argue for better gun education and gun care, but as things are, I do buy into the argument that for most citizens, the gun he keeps might be more likely to harm himself than a bad guy.

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You seem to have more of a wild west mentality than most people. The Death Wish films aren't documentaries. People don't walk around with concealed weapons everywhere, waiting to blast the rape gangs and murderous young people away.

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That has nothing to do with what we're discussing here.

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You being hyperbolic?

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pacotelic.livejournal.com

The Japanese are provably even more belligerent by your metrics.

I never figured you for a soccer mom, but here you go.

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