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[beyondfake-0.livejournal.com]

Obviously your hyperbole detracted from the impact of your statement. I know what you're trying to do, and your gender does dictate how women sit. There's actual etiquette that dictates how a women acts and behaves and dress all to please and attract men. So yeah, you come off as really petty. The gender issues that affect women are huge, not just hyperbole.


Pro-tip. A little bit of hygiene will help you with your sweaty balls. There really is no excuse and personal comfort can be sacrificed to make some one else who is less able to stand have a seat and a better day. This is called courtesy, and should not be mistaken for gender discrimination.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

*ugh* see, it's got nothing to do with hygiene. Get a tennis ball, put it between your legs, then imagine the tennis ball is the most sensitive part on your body.

Also, I think it's courteous to put up with that discomfort for someone else to have a seat, but the two girls in the cartoon are easily taking up three peoples' worth of seat, unless you consider that because there's two seats it's a two person spot, which make one seat a one person spot and one would be quite justified in taking up their full allotment of room. Also, it's public transport, you're going to touch other people. This argument is normally made because some woman is offended that she has to see a man's crotch. Well, my eyes are up here, OK?

This is my point. If you're expecting men to be considerate of how woman are different and have different problems than men, then perhaps it's not too much to expect the same courtesy in return. I agree I've gone about this all wrong, but if you perpetuate genderfication just because you're a woman and you think your problems are more significant (which they are, I absolutely agree), then you green light men to do it. The patriarchy hurts us all, and it's on all of us to fight genderfication, especially within ourselves.

[beyondfake-0.livejournal.com]

There's a difference between abortion, and comfort. If men can ride bikes, horses, motorcycles, they can close their legs. Also, why didn't the men who designed metros make men only seats that cup your balls comfortably?

Do what women do, strap your junk closer to your body so that is is better protected. I think that's why jock straps were invented. Try going to war in gear designed only for men's bodies. Also there are valid reasons for a woman to sit with legs spread for comfort. But instead we are taught by doing so we are literally opening ourselves up to sexual advances and harassment. #yesallwomen

And really you can't preach about discrimination and be taken seriously with this issue. There are many gender discrimination issues that affect men, courtesy isn't one of them. You sir are just an inconsiderate person trying to pass your selfishness off as a social concern. The only concern is you valuing yourself more than others, which is ironic because that touches on the point if the comic.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

I think women should be able to sit with their legs open without it being considered sexual. You have my absolute furious agreement on that.

As for the talk of strapping and all the other different kinds of seats, you just wouldn't understand. A good example is that men who ride bikes suffer from impotence at a much higher rate.

I think you've missed my point though, which I probably deserve for going in so hyperbolic at the start and getting you offside. I believe I have a valid argument, I've just not presented it well. But I do ask why it's such a big deal? OK, if I'm taking up space, I can see the point (but then we should also probably start fat shaming eh?), but if I'm only impacting you in a visual way then why does your opinion matter? How is it different from telling a fat woman not to wear leggings or a man staring at cleavage?

I'm also trying to change the tone here, I think what I'm saying is important, and I feel like you're trying to silence my opinion and as a result, devaluing my concerns and my life experiences. The OP is talking specifically about women's attitudes towards men so this is the appropriate forum to talk about it. So *unless* I'm taking up physical space required by someone else, why should it matter where my legs are?