Date: 2014-04-28 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Well, no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

Date: 2014-04-28 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
A revolutionary perspective would argue that some governments are fundamentally flawed and cannot be successfully reformed.

(FWIW, I don't think the US is in this case, and in no way am I a patriot for any country)

Date: 2014-04-28 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
I would agree with that perspective.

Do I believe that the United States is one of those countries? Well, let me just ask you this: in a plutocracy such as the U.S. is, how does one fix that problem? You can't legislate against it- the legislators are owned by the plutocrats. We're told armed insurrection will never work. And when was the last time a wide-scale grassroots movement changed any policies significantly? How many times has that happened in the nation's entire history?

Date: 2014-04-28 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
In a nominal democracy where there is an inbalance of power (such as a plutocracy), the people must lead and the politicians will follow; they are timid creatures by nature.

And when was the last time a wide-scale grassroots movement changed any policies significantly?

The anti-war protests against Vietnam and Iraq in the U.S., along with the civil rights movement, are held in deep respect by many.

Of course, grassroots protests have to be effective - and the most effective weapon is strike action. That makes the plutocrats panic.

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