[identity profile] kmilligan.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons
It's been real folks, but I've decided to depart from this community. Not because it's headed downhill, or because anyone in particular annoyed me, but it's just time to find something else to do for a while. I particularly would like to thank our lovely host [livejournal.com profile] lyndz for running such an interesting community. I know I've had my disagreements with many of you, but I hope nobody took it too seriously. Even among those I disagree with, there are many decent and thoughtful people here. I wish you all well.

Date: 2005-06-24 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goumindong.livejournal.com
Sad to see you go.

if it makes you feel better, i think we are all angry at this ruling.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsjustkelly.livejournal.com
Seriously. Bullshit like that is the biggest reason I can't get behind mainstream liberalism.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goumindong.livejournal.com
That is not mainstream liberalism, everyone hates the ruling. What happened was precedent creep on the 5th amendment.

Luckly, if congress wants to, they can reverse the ruling through legislation.

A fairly conservative reading of the elastic clause, the 5th, and 9th amdendment allow for chaning the law regarding what happened.

Nothing stops the legislature from limiting itself more through legislation.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goumindong.livejournal.com
Yea, but that doesnt mean that the legislature cant use it to justify legislation.

The basis is that the law is nessesary and proper to enforce the other edicts the constitution grants.

These are 1. Property rights, 2. the 5th amendment conpensation for "public good" and 3. the rights retained by the people.

So, in order to enforce the constitution, the legislature must limit the government in what types of land use it may take land for with just compensation.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnraptor.livejournal.com
If this is mainstream liberalism, I must not be a mainstream liberal, because I'm disgusted by it.

Date: 2005-06-25 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyzwun.livejournal.com
Liberals are for the greater good of the community, man! It's a shame to see you leave, though. Maybe it would take less work for you to just create a new journal to troll the community.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyndz.livejournal.com
Agreed on both counts.

Date: 2005-06-25 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyndz.livejournal.com
Once I turn 21, I'll take you up on it!

(I go to Philly a few times during each school year for hockey games)

Date: 2005-06-24 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ftmwolfcasey.livejournal.com
Yea, no kidding.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccnuggie.livejournal.com
That's a shame, you are one of the few smart people in this community. Hopefully you'll come back during the next elections.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnraptor.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to see you go. It's always a pleasure to discuss the issues with you, even though we often dissagree.

And yeah, that ruling was majorly stupid, and a slap in the face to property rights.

Date: 2005-06-24 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musikinov.livejournal.com
I'll also stroke the ego and lament your leave. This community is still very interesting to me, but I haven't had the same time as I've had before. I'll lament your loss more than ILovetheCure, since while he may have sparked the most conversation, you always had the most structured arguments with good sense backing it up.

Date: 2005-06-24 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] operationpetty.livejournal.com
come on now, the war for oil argument never gets old! ;)

Date: 2005-06-25 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dickies.livejournal.com
hate to see you leave.

Date: 2005-06-25 05:32 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-06-27 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mid-limbo.livejournal.com
im sad to see you leave, but im sure no mere community will be able to contain our long-winded bickering. i hope your not stopping the political posts on your private journal, though.

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