Date: 2014-03-16 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Nice. Needs more california.

Date: 2014-03-16 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
some reason, read that in the voice of Arnold, The Govenator

Date: 2014-03-18 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
I always read "California" in The Govenator's voice.

Date: 2014-03-16 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
In related news: Thomas Robert Malthus was right

http://gizmodo.com/nasa-backed-study-says-humanity-is-pretty-much-screwed-1544660726 (http://gizmodo.com/nasa-backed-study-says-humanity-is-pretty-much-screwed-1544660726)

(although fracking isn't very dangerous at all in certain geologic strata. Indiscriminate fracking- who knows)?

Date: 2014-03-16 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Neat! I do have one quibble:

Technological change can raise the efficiency of resource use, but it also tends to raise both per capita resource consumption and the scale of resource extraction, so that, absent policy effects, the increases in consumption often compensate for the increased efficiency of resource use.


That would be Jevons' Paradox, not Malthus'.

Date: 2014-03-16 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Now I'm going to have to look that up, thanks smart person!

Date: 2014-03-17 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
Right. I was all wrapped up with the "we'll have too many people and not enough resources" angle and overlooked the other thing.

Date: 2014-03-17 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Fracking is also not very energy efficient compared to quite a lot of other methods of getting energy. The issue is that as long as we drive oil powered vehicles, that doesn't matter. We don't want energy, we want gas. That's why so much slander and outright lies has been heaped on things like the Tesla Roadster. Its deathly frightening to oil companies. The thing they have is that the US relies on oil engines for our transportation, not only in every single human in the US's daily life, but for a large portion of moving goods. Its what they've got. If they didn't have that, well oil isn't the most energy efficient, it's not clean, it's not in the interest of national security, they have nothing.

Date: 2014-03-16 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
I immediately thought of an old movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059065/).
Edited Date: 2014-03-16 04:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-03-16 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] le-trombone.livejournal.com
I knew immediately what movie you were talking about before clicking.

The ads for that film (I never saw it, I was a child at the time) scared me through worriment at the time.

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