[identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons
I keep reading people who say we "must get tough" with Russia. Apart from how that is a major misread of the past 20 years of policy, it is also a very cavalier take on the potential threats of setting off a new Cold War. For those too young to recall, the Cold War was actually terrifying and on several occasions, total catastrophe was averted by single, level headed men in the exact right place.

And just in case one needs the lesson visually, here is the forum appropriate link:


Date: 2014-03-05 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
The U.S. has been isolating Russia for some time, this is some push back. Crimea has strong Russian ties.

Date: 2014-03-05 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
The U.S. has been isolating Russia for some time

Well, under the Soviet system it was an unapologetic totalitarian government.
Were we supposed to regard it as England or France?

Or do you mean since the fall of the wall? In which case,
I suppose we were trying to giver previously captured states
some strong ties to the democratic West, fearing that this
kind of regression in Russian governance was possible.
We're not completely shocked by what is happening.

Crimea has strong Russian ties.

Are you saying that this is justified and Russia is just taking
back what is hers?

Date: 2014-03-05 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Russia, post-Soviet Union was seen as wounded and we took advantage in trying to make alliances with former satellites. With the entry of former Warsaw Pact nations into NATO and alliance with the EU, it put pressure on Russia to maintain influence.

What I'm saying about Crimea is that there are a lot of ties to Russia. I read something earlier about the head of the navy in Crimea declaring allegiance to Russia. It's complicated.

And we can't really go in with the stealth bombers like it's Baghdad. The Chinese probably love watching this mess.

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