Date: 2013-12-12 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
As with any war, the War on Christmas was bound to have a few duds in its arsenal.

Date: 2013-12-12 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
I didn't think of that. Actually, losing the white Santa might be
considered a mortal blow by the culture warriors. Sarah Palin
would have a heart attack!

Date: 2013-12-12 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
Think about how careful they'd have to be. "Again this just shows the whole atheist and secular humanist agenda against all those American traditions that just make America great, y'know, first they gotta take Jesus out of Christmas, that's really the reason for the season, and then they have to invent holidays and engage in all kinda socialist engineering to invent new traditions but y'know what I think? I think our traditions are great right now, they've been with us from the beginning of our great nation, fine, American, Christian traditions that define who we are as a people, and I just think this Christmas season is such a fine and beautiful and most of all peaceful time for us all to come together and remember what really matters, and we shouldn't be experimenting with it and denying our children these great memories that we all grew up with. And can I just say..."

Date: 2013-12-12 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Peaceful, in occupied Bethlehem....

Date: 2013-12-12 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
My dad grew up in urban Ohio and he had childhood horror stories of being menaced by drunk Santas since department stores of that era frequently hired hobos as store santas. Good times.

Date: 2013-12-12 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/17/sketchy-santas-9-men-whos_n_394344.html

Date: 2013-12-12 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
The "You're Getting Coal" Santa

Dying.

Date: 2013-12-12 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I was thinking I looked like that one!

Image

Date: 2013-12-12 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
Or consider Fox News.

~ ~ ~

On her show Wednesday night, Fox News’ Megyn Kelly took a stand on one of the most important issues of our time: Whether or not Santa Claus — who does not exist — is a white man. As far as Kelly is concerned, there is no question that he is.

Responding to an article in Slate, titled “Santa Claus Should Not Be a White Man Anymore,” Kelly expressed to a panel of guests her bemusement at the idea of anyone imagining Santa Claus — who, again, does not exist — as anything other than a white man. “Santa just is white,” Kelly said. “But this person is maybe just arguing that we should also have a black Santa. But, you know, Santa is what he is — and just so you know, we’re just debating this because someone wrote about it, kids.”

Kelly wasn’t done, however. After one of her panelists pushed back somewhat on her Santa-is-white absolutism, Kelly reached for a historical reference to prove her point.

“Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean it has to change,” she said (unintentionally providing a sort of mantra for conservatism vis-à-vis race). “You know, I mean, Jesus was a white man, too. He was a historical figure; that’s a verifiable fact—as is Santa, I want you kids watching to know that—but my point is: How do you revise it, in the middle of the legacy of the story, and change Santa from white to black?”


-- News (http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/10879741.html)

Date: 2013-12-12 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
Jesus was white? Caucasoid, I could see, but that's a pretty broad definition of "white" you're using. And we don't really know what he looked like.

I mean, yeah, a lot of Palestinians are light-skinned, and I don't particularly care if we're calling Levantine Semites "white" now, but it's arbitrary to draw the line including Semites and Nordics in "white," and excluding Mongoloid and Negroid types as therefore "more different" from Jesus, who was most probably a tan Asian of some variety. :D
Edited Date: 2013-12-12 09:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-12 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
Oh, ye of little faith!

Date: 2013-12-13 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
Fake / Real / Whatever
Image

Date: 2013-12-13 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
The "real Jesus" does not look very charismatic. He looks
more like one of the thieves on the cross next to Jesus.
God's very own begotten son? I don't think so.
I'd expect something more Rock Hudson-like, but less gay.
Maybe Charlton Heston!

Date: 2013-12-12 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
@politicartoons Why fight; Santa's white #BDJ #whiteprivilege

Date: 2013-12-12 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
I cannot say a penguin works for me.
Maybe it would be better to leave it to the elves,
with the leader being rotated among them,
who will be called Santa Claus for that year.

Or are all the elves white, too?

Date: 2013-12-12 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Instead of a penguin, I vote to make Samuel L. Jackson the new Santa. It worked in The Avengers.

Date: 2013-12-12 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
"I am sick and tired of these motherfucking kids in this motherfucking mall!"

Date: 2013-12-12 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
"Say 'Red Ryder BB Gun' again, I dare you. I double-dare you motherfucker, say 'Red Ryder BB Gun' one more goddamn time!"

Date: 2013-12-12 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Or are all the elves white, too?
Image
Edited Date: 2013-12-12 12:47 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-12 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Along with Scrooged, my holiday double feature.

Date: 2013-12-12 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I bet you watch Die Hard too. That's a good one. So Christmassy.

Joyeux Noël (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrr-CDXijs), about the Christmas Truce in WW1 is recommended.

Edited Date: 2013-12-12 01:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-12 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Die Hard and Lethal Weapon are my mom's go-to movies she watches every year on Christmas Day. I respect those choices.

Date: 2013-12-12 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Your father is a lucky man!

Image
Edited Date: 2013-12-12 01:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-12 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
For New Years, there's "Strange Days (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114558/reviews)"

Date: 2013-12-12 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Another Fienne film.

Date: 2013-12-13 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
Oh, you and [livejournal.com profile] fizzyland have exquisite taste in movies! I love Strange Days on New Year's Eve! I thought I was the only one.

Date: 2013-12-13 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
YES! Someone else who loves Scrooged! It's the perfect movie!

All day long, I listen to people give me excuses why they can't work... 'My back hurts,' 'my legs ache,' 'I'm only four!' The sooner he learns life isn't handed to him on a silver platter, the better!

Date: 2013-12-13 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
It was a beautiful update of the original - when I saw they made a Jim Carrey Christmas Carol, my first response was "Why?"

Date: 2013-12-13 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
Jim Carrey needs to stop making Christmas movies. Seriously.

Date: 2013-12-12 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Tremble in fear!

Date: 2013-12-12 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittymink.livejournal.com
yesssss! Was thinking of this

Date: 2013-12-12 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zadok-allen.livejournal.com
I'm okay with it - looks like the penguin is half white.

Date: 2013-12-12 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
I like the Dutch approach to Sinterklaas. One old white guy accompanied by a whole bunch of young black men.

Date: 2013-12-12 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com
Sounds kinky.

Date: 2013-12-12 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
I think I could get behind the penguin. Just for shits-n'-giggles.

Date: 2013-12-12 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonchylde.livejournal.com
I'm a puffin fan myself. Icon notwithstanding.

Date: 2013-12-12 04:56 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-12 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Er, no penguins at the North Pole: South Pole only I fear. But if we can only get Santa to move it might make more sense.

The extinct Great Auk was the northern hemisphere equivalent of penguins...but maybe a dodo would be better as a symbol for Christmas, thinking about it. Good ol' pagan festivals co-opted by the early church have had such longevity.

Date: 2013-12-12 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittymink.livejournal.com
Agreed on all counts

Date: 2013-12-12 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
Auks were called penguins. They never ranged quite to the North Pole, as far as I know, or they might not have been hunted to extinction.

Date: 2013-12-12 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
True, they were known as penguins, especially by the Northern whaling fleets. There are contemporary accounts which describe whaling boats having domesticated Auks on board.

Extinct though, and the only penguins we have left aren't in Santa's country.

Date: 2013-12-12 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittymink.livejournal.com
The article does note that they'd have to move Santa to the South Pole.

but lol:

>Correction, Dec. 10, 2013: This article originally misidentified penguins as mammals. They are birds.

Date: 2013-12-13 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
Santa lives at the North Pole. He needs all the vitamin D he can get.

Date: 2013-12-13 05:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-13 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
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