The best reason for paranoia TM had is that he was being followed by a guy in a truck who was bigger than he was and who might have been a kidnapper, a child molester, or a serial killer. If I'd been in Trayvon's shoes (and I'm a white woman) I would sure as hell tried to stop the guy who'd been shadowing me from getting his hands on me in any way shape or form.
So, for the record, if you think someone's following you, you're going to assault him instead of avoiding him or calling the police? Especially if you think he's a kidnapper or serial killer, that's insane.
If he gets out of his car and approaches me, it's certainly a possibility. And think about it. Trayvon had kept trying to walk away from Zimmerman's car -- doesn't that count as avoiding him? But Zimmerman persisted. As for calling the police, I don't know a teenager, black or white (and I work with them) whose instinct would be to call the cops. Yeah, I'd probably call the police if I thought I had enough time, but if he pulled his car in front of me to cut me off, I don't think I necessarily would be thinking that way.
In a crisis, unless we're trained to respond in a certain way, our reactions can seem pretty stupid to an outside person. Standing and swinging whatever heavy thing I had would certainly seem like an option. For a kid who had been in fights like Trayvon, taking a swing at an opponent would match his reaction to similar situations where he acted in self-defense.
If he gets out of his car and approaches me, it's certainly a possibility.
What if he doesn't approach you?
Trayvon had kept trying to walk away from Zimmerman's car -- doesn't that count as avoiding him?
Martin came back.
As for calling the police, I don't know a teenager, black or white (and I work with them) whose instinct would be to call the cops.
Isn't that a problem?
Yeah, I'd probably call the police if I thought I had enough time, but if he pulled his car in front of me to cut me off, I don't think I necessarily would be thinking that way.
That didn't happen in this case.
For a kid who had been in fights like Trayvon, taking a swing at an opponent would match his reaction to similar situations where he acted in self-defense.
Is it self-defense if you come up to a guy and then punch him when all he's doing is watching you?
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Date: 2013-07-16 09:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-16 09:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-16 11:51 pm (UTC)In a crisis, unless we're trained to respond in a certain way, our reactions can seem pretty stupid to an outside person. Standing and swinging whatever heavy thing I had would certainly seem like an option. For a kid who had been in fights like Trayvon, taking a swing at an opponent would match his reaction to similar situations where he acted in self-defense.
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Date: 2013-07-16 11:53 pm (UTC)What if he doesn't approach you?
Trayvon had kept trying to walk away from Zimmerman's car -- doesn't that count as avoiding him?
Martin came back.
As for calling the police, I don't know a teenager, black or white (and I work with them) whose instinct would be to call the cops.
Isn't that a problem?
Yeah, I'd probably call the police if I thought I had enough time, but if he pulled his car in front of me to cut me off, I don't think I necessarily would be thinking that way.
That didn't happen in this case.
For a kid who had been in fights like Trayvon, taking a swing at an opponent would match his reaction to similar situations where he acted in self-defense.
Is it self-defense if you come up to a guy and then punch him when all he's doing is watching you?
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Date: 2013-07-17 01:41 am (UTC)Here, this guy says a lot of things you ought to hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdpU3cXPDys&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1