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Date: 2013-07-16 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabidsamfan.livejournal.com
The best reason for paranoia TM had is that he was being followed by a guy in a truck who was bigger than he was and who might have been a kidnapper, a child molester, or a serial killer. If I'd been in Trayvon's shoes (and I'm a white woman) I would sure as hell tried to stop the guy who'd been shadowing me from getting his hands on me in any way shape or form.

Date: 2013-07-16 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
So, for the record, if you think someone's following you, you're going to assault him instead of avoiding him or calling the police? Especially if you think he's a kidnapper or serial killer, that's insane.

Date: 2013-07-16 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabidsamfan.livejournal.com
If he gets out of his car and approaches me, it's certainly a possibility. And think about it. Trayvon had kept trying to walk away from Zimmerman's car -- doesn't that count as avoiding him? But Zimmerman persisted. As for calling the police, I don't know a teenager, black or white (and I work with them) whose instinct would be to call the cops. Yeah, I'd probably call the police if I thought I had enough time, but if he pulled his car in front of me to cut me off, I don't think I necessarily would be thinking that way.

In a crisis, unless we're trained to respond in a certain way, our reactions can seem pretty stupid to an outside person. Standing and swinging whatever heavy thing I had would certainly seem like an option. For a kid who had been in fights like Trayvon, taking a swing at an opponent would match his reaction to similar situations where he acted in self-defense.

Date: 2013-07-16 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
If he gets out of his car and approaches me, it's certainly a possibility.

What if he doesn't approach you?

Trayvon had kept trying to walk away from Zimmerman's car -- doesn't that count as avoiding him?

Martin came back.

As for calling the police, I don't know a teenager, black or white (and I work with them) whose instinct would be to call the cops.

Isn't that a problem?

Yeah, I'd probably call the police if I thought I had enough time, but if he pulled his car in front of me to cut me off, I don't think I necessarily would be thinking that way.

That didn't happen in this case.

For a kid who had been in fights like Trayvon, taking a swing at an opponent would match his reaction to similar situations where he acted in self-defense.

Is it self-defense if you come up to a guy and then punch him when all he's doing is watching you?

Date: 2013-07-17 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rabidsamfan.livejournal.com
Clearly, you have never been stalked.

Here, this guy says a lot of things you ought to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdpU3cXPDys&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1

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