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Cindy Sheehan saw some disturbing signage posted upon a military base fence in 29 Palms Marine base in California. It was from a vessel recently returned from deployment in the middle east. She took it down and after riding on her bicycle (Tour de Peace) across our country, she delivered it as a present to the White House.





Date: 2013-07-04 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Here's a blog post about it (http://cindysheehanssoapbox.blogspot.com/2013/04/bring-heart-back-to-this-land-week-one.html). I think Cindy Sheehan doesn't exactly get the reference, to be charitable about it.

Date: 2013-07-04 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Taken hyper-literally outside of the fact that the monologue this was lifted from became a top 40 song that exists outside of the original context, sure.

In the real world for the rest of us?

Date: 2013-07-04 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw

Over 100m YouTube views, top 100 Billboard, certified gold for sales.

Won't embed, sorry.
Edited Date: 2013-07-04 02:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-04 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's not an exact translation. It's a definite reference to the cultural meme.

Date: 2013-07-04 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladycakes.livejournal.com
Doesn't make it any less rapey.

Date: 2013-07-04 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
In context, it's not even a little rapey. You have to utterly ignore the cultural significance that has overtaken the original commentary in order to see it as "rapey."

Date: 2013-07-04 02:26 pm (UTC)
weswilson: (Magical Wes Animated)
From: [personal profile] weswilson
... so let me get this straight...

"Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, hide yo husbands, cause they rapin' errbody round here" is of such humorous cultural significance, that military people can post banners proclaiming similar sentiments about the daughters and wives of civilians, and it's not "rapey"?

Date: 2013-07-04 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Correct. It has transcended its original meaning and become something entirely unrelated to its original context.

Date: 2013-07-04 02:40 pm (UTC)
weswilson: (Magical Wes Animated)
From: [personal profile] weswilson
I dispute the notion it's unrelated to its original context.

The implication is still that the soldier are going to molest the civilian women to the point even lacking consent. It is a clear example of rape culture removing the sting of the act because "raping" women is funny.

Date: 2013-07-04 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
The implication is only there because you're ignoring the broader, more prominent social context. We don't agree at all.

This is an example of how the "rape culture" myth permeates even otherwise innocent appropriations of cultural memes, and, in the case of Cindy Sheehan, how ignorance of the culture around you results in improper conclusions.

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Date: 2013-07-04 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
Correct. It has transcended its original meaning and become something entirely unrelated to its original context.

And the 2nd Amendment?

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Date: 2013-07-04 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladycakes.livejournal.com
um...you are wrong. The original meme was about a creeper trying to break into a woman's bedroom. HOW IS THAT NOT RAPEY?

Date: 2013-07-04 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
That's "rapey" in the sense that he's talking about a guy who broke into the woman's bedroom. The song? The meme that overtook the original news report that went viral? No, it's transcended its original meaning.

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Date: 2013-07-04 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Oh well that makes it better.

Date: 2013-07-04 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farchivist.livejournal.com
In the real world for the rest of us?

That's what it means for us here in the Deep South.
A little education for Yankee you.

Date: 2013-07-04 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trog.livejournal.com
Not really, no.

It simply means the people in question will be out looking to have sex and your wife or daughter might well be interested.

Date: 2013-07-04 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Or it could imply that women are chattel and if you want them to not act on their free will then you should keep them locked up.

Either way...

Edit: which is basically what Trog said.
Edited Date: 2013-07-04 09:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-04 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzflux.livejournal.com
With or without the implication that women are chattel, this meme centers on rape. Specifically attempted rape: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Dodson

Date: 2013-07-05 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Oh, I know, I was pre-empting a justification that I wound up not pre-empting cos I wasn't quick enough on the trigger :)

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