Date: 2013-05-16 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurleyman.livejournal.com
I always laugh every time I hear the "damn illegals need to speak English!" rhetoric when half our American population can't even form coherent sentences or spell simple words. Why do you expect things of people that you don't even expect your own children to do?

Date: 2013-05-16 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Nono Hurleyman! It is Them damn illegals need ta speak English!

Date: 2013-05-17 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
About that...

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Edited Date: 2013-05-17 01:11 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-17 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Get A Brain Morans guy is a bit of a hero of mine :P

Date: 2013-05-17 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
If only he had written "Get A Brian Morans" instead, it would have been perfect.

Date: 2013-05-16 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com

Immigrants MUST speak english, because most Americans are too uneducated to be bilingual.

Date: 2013-05-17 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
The vast majority of Americans speak one language. And the immigrants often understand more than it pays to let on...
Edited Date: 2013-05-17 06:03 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-17 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnamontoast.livejournal.com
Americans are not completely dim. The majority of Americans speak one language because of a lack of linguistic diversity and as a function of geography. Unless you live on the border of French speaking Quebec or Spanish speaking Mexico, there is no place except a bilingual home environment to practice and use a second language. As you age, you lose the ability to use the second language you are taught in school.

It's damn expensive to travel to a place to use a second language on a regular basis and most Americans don't have the money to do so. The insistence on painting non-bilingualism as stupidity or being uneducated is terribly classist. This is NOT the case in Europe (and beyond) where people of all classes are able to move freely between linguistically diverse regions without the need for air travel or extended travel times.

Look up the other places in the world that are as linguistically isolated due to geography as the United States - Like Canada (where bilingualism hoovers around 17.5% (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/10/24/census-language.html)) - And you'll find the same sort of stats. The United States weighs in at 25% (http://www.gallup.com/poll/1825/about-one-four-americans-can-hold-conversation-second-language.aspx), with the highest numbers of bilingual individuals (43%) in the age range of 18-24.

There. I had to get that out of my system.
Edited Date: 2013-05-17 02:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-16 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com
Well there's at least one researcher who's not as smart as the average immigrant.

Date: 2013-05-17 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brother-dour.livejournal.com
Nice try but:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native

See definition #2. I am a white native: Anglo-Caucasian ethnicity (white) and born in the United States (native).

(Jason Richwine is still a shithead, though)
Edited Date: 2013-05-17 03:01 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-17 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
From your link:
"native, indigenous, endemic, aboriginal mean belonging to a locality. native implies birth or origin in a place or region and may suggest compatibility with it . indigenous applies to species or races and adds to native the implication of not having been introduced from elsewhere . endemic implies being peculiar to a region . aboriginal implies having no known race preceding in occupancy of the region .

Semantics aside, the point is reasonable.

Date: 2013-05-17 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscience.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Of course IQ correlates with race, because races are not proportionally represented in the upper echelons of academia where it's decided what goes into the IQ tests. The ranking of races by average IQ is identical to the ranking of races by their representation in academia relative to their representation in the general population. It's the same ranking you see in every quantifiable measure of privilege: Jews, Asians, whites, Hispanics, and blacks.

Date: 2013-05-17 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
Then we should not go calling it IQ. It should be called UEQ.

Date: 2013-05-17 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ice-hesitant.livejournal.com
The way the word "immigrant" is used to mean "illegal immigrant" in US English to the actual exclusion of legal immigrants from the definition annoys me.

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