1. Religion is itself an irrational coping mechanism for the talking, hairless ape who hasn't been out of the trees long enough; 2. Even if that weren't the case, Christianity is supposedly based on the teachings of Christ who, if we are to believe the scriptures and gospels, is the Prince of Peace i.e. non-violence, turn the other cheek, put down the sword, judge ye not, etc., so it's especially irrational for christians to be blessing weapons, especially weapons of war.
I agree. In addition, there's something incredibly self-centered and numb-minded in thinking that God would side with you when you're trying to destroy other people. What makes you so special, precisely, that God likes you better than anyone else?
1) We'll just leave as your opinion and note it. I don't really care one way or the other.
2) You are really not aware of Christian history or doctrine, are you? Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ...and other parts of the Bible. Murder is the unlawful taking of life. Killing is the lawful taking of life. God has said, "You shall not murder," not "You shall not kill." After all, God says killing in self defense is justifiable. Further, the wages of sin is death, so when God executes someone it is not murder, it is killing because it is a lawful taking of life. Remember, all people have sinned. Sin is the breaking of God's law. Therefore, God's execution is lawful. And the blessing makes the soldiers God's instruments on Earth, therefore their killing is lawful in the eyes of God.
Then you have the writings of St Bernard of Clairvaux, who set out why it is the holy duty to kill in the name of God, but that's getting into heretics and just war and so on.
Jesus was quite clear on promoting peace and non-violence. Any christian doctrine which deviates from that is even stupider than normal religious doctrine.
Kinda of odd to have heard one of the Russian Orthodox Patriarchs rebuffed any ecumenical talks with John Paul II because Rome wasn't doctrinally pure (or words to that effect).
Yup. Russian Orthodoxy considers Moscow to be the "third Rome" and the true inheritors of the mantle of Peter. As far as they are concerned, Constantinople inherited the mantle from Rome when the Schism occurred and the Roman Catholics are apostates. And when Constantinople fell, they inherited the mantle, so current Greek Orthodox are apostates.
Yep. In my Catholic high school (in a very liberal progressive diocese) we had a semester class on Eastern Orthodoxy, and we covered all the back and forth between the highly fractured regional Orthodox churches etc. We had a great instructor and I knew it was really good at the time, but it was really like a college level grad class.
Yeah, then it's funny on the other side, the right winger traditionalist Catholics who want the clock turned back to pre Council of Trent whining and complaining John Paul II was ACTUALLY INVITING SCHISMATICS to the Vatican! Or his master of ceremonies was such a heretic for having Inca dancers wildly gyrating about at the beautification of one of the South American saints he proclaimed. Or they always hate the sign of peace during the Liturgy. So insane :-/
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Date: 2013-02-01 07:00 pm (UTC)1. Religion is itself an irrational coping mechanism for the talking, hairless ape who hasn't been out of the trees long enough;
2. Even if that weren't the case, Christianity is supposedly based on the teachings of Christ who, if we are to believe the scriptures and gospels, is the Prince of Peace i.e. non-violence, turn the other cheek, put down the sword, judge ye not, etc., so it's especially irrational for christians to be blessing weapons, especially weapons of war.
Does this help?
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Date: 2013-02-01 11:39 pm (UTC)1) We'll just leave as your opinion and note it. I don't really care one way or the other.
2) You are really not aware of Christian history or doctrine, are you? Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ...and other parts of the Bible. Murder is the unlawful taking of life. Killing is the lawful taking of life. God has said, "You shall not murder," not "You shall not kill." After all, God says killing in self defense is justifiable. Further, the wages of sin is death, so when God executes someone it is not murder, it is killing because it is a lawful taking of life. Remember, all people have sinned. Sin is the breaking of God's law. Therefore, God's execution is lawful. And the blessing makes the soldiers God's instruments on Earth, therefore their killing is lawful in the eyes of God.
Then you have the writings of St Bernard of Clairvaux, who set out why it is the holy duty to kill in the name of God, but that's getting into heretics and just war and so on.
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Date: 2013-02-01 09:27 pm (UTC)Only way to fly...........
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Date: 2013-02-01 10:21 pm (UTC)"Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!”
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