Being British, I can get free condoms and free STI testing from state-run walking centres that are part of our National Health Service.
I find it reassuring that people don't have to worry about the financial cost of being sexually safe and having regular sexual health check-ups. It's not only good for me directly, as I can make use of these services, but it also helps stop the spread of contagious diseases, which is a benefit to society as a whole.
If someone is put out of work due to a disease that would have been easily treatable then it's pretty short-sighted to not see it as being part of the national interest to have had them diagnosed and treated early on. However, if someone has a disease that they're spreading about, it's very, very obvious in the national interest to provide them with whatever is needed to stop them being a health threat to others.
Whether the US will recognise this, I don't know, am just glad the UK does.
and you hit upon the basic argument that cheap-labor conservatives don't have an argument against.
I often posit that my desire for UHCC in our country isn't altruistic, it's selfish as hell: I reeeeeeeally don't like the idea of people walking around with easily treatable diseases making me and my loved ones sick. The altruistic side of me also does not like the same diseased people making immuno-compromised people sick (newborns, unborn, pregnant women, elderly, cancer patients, organ recipients et al) I mean, if you're really so "pro-life" then you ought to really be upset about all the assholes who aren't keeping up with vaccinations. Newborns are most suseptible to things like pertussis when we don't keep up vaccinations.
The economist in me doesn't like the idea of diseased people not getting treatment and eventually getting TOO sick to work, function or protect their own. Its a drain on society that could have been prevented.
I cannot fathom why cheap-labor conservatives do not see the economic advantage to keeping our society as healthy as possible. I think it has to do with the "I'm one of the *special* people. SO I'm not in that category and I don't have to worry about it" or something
Cheap labor conservatives see poor people without hope as their greatest profit centers. Why do you think there's such a high correspondence between payday loan locations and conservative political voting districts?
It's always easy to get cash out of the desprate or hopeless who never saw the point in planning for a future they never thought would come. Less so for the comfortable or those than plan ahead because they've been raised with rewards.
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Date: 2012-03-06 06:13 am (UTC)I find it reassuring that people don't have to worry about the financial cost of being sexually safe and having regular sexual health check-ups. It's not only good for me directly, as I can make use of these services, but it also helps stop the spread of contagious diseases, which is a benefit to society as a whole.
If someone is put out of work due to a disease that would have been easily treatable then it's pretty short-sighted to not see it as being part of the national interest to have had them diagnosed and treated early on. However, if someone has a disease that they're spreading about, it's very, very obvious in the national interest to provide them with whatever is needed to stop them being a health threat to others.
Whether the US will recognise this, I don't know, am just glad the UK does.
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Date: 2012-03-06 06:30 am (UTC)I often posit that my desire for UHCC in our country isn't altruistic, it's selfish as hell: I reeeeeeeally don't like the idea of people walking around with easily treatable diseases making me and my loved ones sick. The altruistic side of me also does not like the same diseased people making immuno-compromised people sick (newborns, unborn, pregnant women, elderly, cancer patients, organ recipients et al) I mean, if you're really so "pro-life" then you ought to really be upset about all the assholes who aren't keeping up with vaccinations. Newborns are most suseptible to things like pertussis when we don't keep up vaccinations.
The economist in me doesn't like the idea of diseased people not getting treatment and eventually getting TOO sick to work, function or protect their own. Its a drain on society that could have been prevented.
I cannot fathom why cheap-labor conservatives do not see the economic advantage to keeping our society as healthy as possible. I think it has to do with the "I'm one of the *special* people. SO I'm not in that category and I don't have to worry about it"
or something
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Date: 2012-03-06 03:18 pm (UTC)It's always easy to get cash out of the desprate or hopeless who never saw the point in planning for a future they never thought would come. Less so for the comfortable or those than plan ahead because they've been raised with rewards.