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[mmmmjournal.livejournal.com]

And so begins another long day four years of liberal whining.

[megiloth.livejournal.com]

Just remember...when they're out of power, that's when the real kooks come out.

Consider them our entertainment :)

[mid-limbo.livejournal.com]

thats because those for whom the system doesnt work will strive for change, while those on top will perpetuate the status quo. you will see it again when the liberal revival comes. then it will be the conservative time to protest.

[megiloth.livejournal.com]

thats because those for whom the system doesnt work will strive for change

Who doesn't the system work for? Besides minorities and the unemployed. Didn't you see that part of the GOP platform that states that minorities and the other disenfranchised groups aren't allowed to partake in our mean and nasty capitalist ways?

while those on top will perpetuate the status quo

You left out those of us middle-class single straight white guys that perpetuate the status quo. Damn those tax cuts. Damn having a strong defense. Damn that 2nd Amendment. Although I do advocate privatization of Social Security, which is the current status quo.

[mid-limbo.livejournal.com]

middle class straight single white guys are on top, and they do perpetuate the status quo, as you said. if your talking about the uber-top (upper class closet-gay married white guys), then yes, that 2% perpetuates the status quo as well, but it wouldnt be made possible without people like you to hold back the little guy and kick him when he's down.

[megiloth.livejournal.com]

you will see it again when the liberal revival comes

I'll most likely be dead by 2050. Maybe in the meantime the Democrat party should concentrate at actually WINNING seats in the House and Senate, before talking aboot a liberal revival.

then it will be the conservative time to protest

Unfortunately we have jobs to go to, but we will make out voice heard at the ballot...like we did back in 1994.

[mid-limbo.livejournal.com]

exactly. the system fluctuates. its not gonna wait till 2050 either. and, as soon as 'we' get back on top, 'they' will start 'their' work to supplant 'us'. in a couple of terms liberals are going to find their passion and make a push, just like you did in 1994.

[somefantastic10.livejournal.com]

liberal whining?

before you accuse me of "liberal whining," can you tell me what you think about the actual concept of the cartoon?

[red-pen-theory.livejournal.com]

it's stupid, for starters

[somefantastic10.livejournal.com]

id have to say that dog is stupid. but can we please get to the actual concept of the cartoon?

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

It's a very good cartoon, but conceptually it's the president's job to send men and women into harm's way. One may disagree with the wisdom of doing so, and Congresses' judgement to authorize it, but the logical conclusion of such a concept would either be a) we're crippled from fighting any wars, or b) the President can never sell access to his inauguration. I would be comfortable with b), but not a), though I suspect a) is what the cartoonist would prefer.

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

it's the president's job to send men and women into harm's way.

Shit, really? I always thought there was something in there about preserving the constitution, but if it's his JOB to kill people, he should just start nuking the east coast, it would be more efficient.

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

Article I, Section 2, Clause 1:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

That's interesting, but that's not what you said. If it's a president's job to send soldiers in a battle, then he is failing in his duty if he doesn't find a war to join. Which automatically qualifies presidents like Washington and Jefferson as traitors.

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

Aside from the fact that both Washington and Jefferson fought wars (Whiskey Rebellion, and the Barbary Wars), I wasn't saying it was the president's job to start wars, but it is his job to fight them. The question is whether or not the President and Congress exercise good judgment in their decisions to go to war, not whether the president is a monster for directing the armed forces during war under his constitutional powers, which, necessarily, will include sending some of them to die.

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

Frell, forgot the damn pirates. But dude, you seriously need to work on your phrasing.

it is his job to fight them.

No! No, it's not. You're phrasing it with absolutely no concept of purpose. You sound like it's the president's job to ensure eternal warfare. Surely there must some end, some meaning, some purpose? Surely you mean to say, "It is the president's job to [insert your belief here], and he may send his citizens to their death in the belief that that will help achieve said goal."

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure I understand your criticism. I'm not saying it's the president's job to ensure eternal war, but we've effectively been at war since 9/11/2001, which necessitated sending soldiers into harms way.

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

My criticism is that... well, I hoped you thought that war had a function. But all you keep saying is that "We are at war, so we have to be at war."

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

Sorry, that should be Article II.

[skurkey.livejournal.com]

I guess it's easier to have an empty opinion than to have some sort of facts to back oneself up.

[red-pen-theory.livejournal.com]

it's so ridiculous i'm not going to justify its existence with any meaningful comment

nor will i justify yours, either

[jimb.livejournal.com]

Luckily the conservatives STFU during Clinton's eight years. Those were some quiet dudes back in the day.

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

Oh god, tell me about it, I grew up religious right. I know it ALL. >.

[wyzwun.livejournal.com]

He said they were quiet. If you knew it ALL, that would mean the opposite. -.O

The reason conservatives were quiet during a large part of Clinton's years was because it took him so long to screw up the good thing he had going when he took office. That and because he kept giving conservatives offers of welfare reform and whatnot to keep off his back.

[jimb.livejournal.com]

And unlike W's administration, nobody demanded accountability.

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I thought I detected sarcasm in there, because I didn't know any quiet conservatives, maybe because I lived near DC and my dad read and ranted over the Times daily. For us, it was apocolypse from day one.

[jess-k.livejournal.com]

Nice comic.
Hard to understand how conservatives value human life so little while they claim to value it so much...

[red-pen-theory.livejournal.com]

oh what you mean soldiers might actually die in a military exercise?

WTF WITHDRAW ALL TROOPS IMMEDIATELY!!!!1 >:

[wyzwun.livejournal.com]

The sad thing is that's probably her point exactly. When people make comments like that it's best just to ignore them. It's one of those ridiculous extremes that only people that don't know any better make.

[mid-limbo.livejournal.com]

the point is that they dont get a spot in the ceremony, only the wealthy contributors

[nova-starr.livejournal.com]

a tour of duty in vietnam was only a year.

[chrisfrap.livejournal.com]

A Paradox if you will
Conservatives - Pro Death Penalty, Pro Life, Pro War
Democrats - Anti Death Penalty, Pro Choice, Anti-War

using all the logic....and trying to find a pattern, i have found only one common factor

Republicans like to kill Adults
Democrats like to kill fetuses/babies/etc.

And I do adore my dead baby jokes.

[kylenivi.livejournal.com]

Democrats like to kill babies...excuse me? Also adults are not the only ones who die in war.

[chrisfrap.livejournal.com]

the comment is meant to be satirical, no one really likes to kill babies/fetuses.

and legally, adults are the ones dying in the war on our side. Last time i checked, thats all anyone in this damn country cared about is our side. You hardly hear anyone bitching about the amount of Iraqi casulaties, which more people SHOULD be talking about.

so in the sense that you have to be a legal adult (i.e. 18) to fight in our army/navy/air force/marines/etc. adults are the ones dying from our side.