Nowadays it's not cool to be friends with the United States.
[insert Darth Vader theme here]
And with that I think it's not necessarily for the oil, but for the massive profits that the Bush family and their friends will make off this invasion.
Go back to your Michael Moore fan club meeting. It's not about the Bush family making a profit; they were already set for life financially before he even ran for President.
Don't take this the wrong way because (at the moment) I'm not arguing for or against any particular theory about Gulf war I or II, but... Saying that a rich family would not engage in unethical practices for profit because they are already set for life is a weak argument at best. Rich men, families and companies are always after more money, even if their grandchildren's grandchildren are set for life. Again, I'm not necissarily saying that's what either Gulf War was about. I'm just saying that rich people are always trying to get richer and powerful people are always trying to get more power.
Sarcastic? Not sarcastic? It's so hard to tell, in writing.
Just to clarify, my point was not that rich people are inherently evil or that trying to enhance ones wealth is a bad thing. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to argue that rich people who don't NEED any more money wouldn't try to advance their wealth more, because they obviously do. Thus, the argument that a rich person wouldn't do something underhanded for profit just because he's already rich doesn't hold water.
There is no good and evil, friend. There is only love, hate, fear, and greed. Quite a large amount of a person's suffering comes from the desirous attachment to material possessions.
Hmm, now that I take a closer look I believe it says "Trust Bush". I'm afraid I have a hard time trusting Bush. I also have a hard time believing that being a hardcore drinker until he was 40 did not have any adverse effects on his judgment.
Remains to be seen. I know in Columbia, American drug companies had made money off of cocoa processing tools which were illegally sold to the Columbian government. And I don't need to bring up Nicaragua...
Who do you think is making the money in Afghanistan?
You do know that last year record sales of opium were recorded in Afghanistan at around 2.2 billion.
Who do you think is making that money? Most certainly not the common Afghani. What could be done with that money? Think for a second.
As far as Bush/Cheney...I don't care...if it were Gore or Kerry it'd be the same thing, I'm speaking out against half-assed foreign policy.
Iraq is still strategically very important, because if you're going to reduce terrorism in the middle east you have to start modernizing Arab society. Where else would you suggest starting this? Or is it not a project worth trying?
I see Afghanistan as addressing terrorism in the short term. Iraq is the beginning of addressing it over the long term.
excuse me sir but iraq posed no threat to middle east stability. hussien had a proven track record of nonagression toward his neighboring states. am i right or am i right?
Or the stunning modernity of Kuwait, who are still controlled by an autocratic monarchy? Wealth != dignity.
The problem in the middle east is not a lack of wealth. Oil provides a tremendous amount of wealth for the region. The deficit is in the amount of self-determination, dignity and hope. This collection of dictatorships, monarchies, and theocracies aren't going to help change this situation as long as they know they can hold on to power by blaming the Arab world's deficiencies on Israel and the west.
This isn't an "us vs. them" situation, this is a situation of allowing arabs, more specifically Iraqis, get a chance to choose their own future.
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Date: 2005-01-16 01:12 pm (UTC)[insert Darth Vader theme here]
And with that I think it's not necessarily for the oil, but for the massive profits that the Bush family and their friends will make off this invasion.
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Date: 2005-01-16 01:15 pm (UTC)Go back to your Michael Moore fan club meeting. It's not about the Bush family making a profit; they were already set for life financially before he even ran for President.
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Date: 2005-01-16 06:45 pm (UTC)Just to clarify, my point was not that rich people are inherently evil or that trying to enhance ones wealth is a bad thing. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to argue that rich people who don't NEED any more money wouldn't try to advance their wealth more, because they obviously do. Thus, the argument that a rich person wouldn't do something underhanded for profit just because he's already rich doesn't hold water.
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Date: 2005-01-23 05:24 pm (UTC)"Evil Subliminal Message
TRUST BUSH
Evil Subliminal Message"
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Date: 2005-01-16 01:26 pm (UTC)wait
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Date: 2005-01-16 06:39 pm (UTC)Who do you think is making the money in Afghanistan?
You do know that last year record sales of opium were recorded in Afghanistan at around 2.2 billion.
Who do you think is making that money? Most certainly not the common Afghani. What could be done with that money? Think for a second.
As far as Bush/Cheney...I don't care...if it were Gore or Kerry it'd be the same thing, I'm speaking out against half-assed foreign policy.
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Date: 2005-01-16 04:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-16 05:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-16 05:59 pm (UTC)I see Afghanistan as addressing terrorism in the short term. Iraq is the beginning of addressing it over the long term.
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Date: 2005-01-16 06:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-01-16 08:22 pm (UTC)And you cannot reduce war by having an "us versus them" mentality.
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Date: 2005-01-16 08:35 pm (UTC)The problem in the middle east is not a lack of wealth. Oil provides a tremendous amount of wealth for the region. The deficit is in the amount of self-determination, dignity and hope. This collection of dictatorships, monarchies, and theocracies aren't going to help change this situation as long as they know they can hold on to power by blaming the Arab world's deficiencies on Israel and the west.
This isn't an "us vs. them" situation, this is a situation of allowing arabs, more specifically Iraqis, get a chance to choose their own future.
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Date: 2005-01-17 12:56 am (UTC)Don't need to...
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