Certain to be unpopular amongst some of you.....

[mmmmjournal.livejournal.com]

Chuck Asay, The Colorado Springs Gazette

Comments

DUH!

[tj642.livejournal.com]

Torture doesn't WORK!

That's why there are RULES to follow. You get more info from "honey" than from "vinager"! Dumb-nuts! Tis' why it's ILLEGAL to torture prisoners or people that you have physical/mental control over!

Hopefully the next time you get pulled over for a ticket, the cop beats your ass instead of asking nicely....

So many idiots out there....and you're one of em!

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[mmmmjournal.livejournal.com]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16572

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[lima-pcp.livejournal.com]

Well, that shut him up quite nicely!

Re: DUH!

[tj642.livejournal.com]

HA! Typical RIGHT wing-nut thinking.

It's called watching and listening....you put them (a few in a room)...and listen in on their BS...and then put it in a database. It all comes down to number crunching. sure they will lie 90% of the time....but you ask them over and over...and they forgwt which lie they were using...and the facts build up...as you cross reference items...from multiple sources.

DUH

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[mmmmjournal.livejournal.com]

You're awfully frequent with the use of that word "duh," and after reading a few of your comments, I think I know why.

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[darthbeckman.livejournal.com]

Illegal according to what? The Geneva Convention? They're terrorists; they have no rights under the Convention.

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[mid-limbo.livejournal.com]

suspected terrorists, i hate to point out. they are still innocent till proven guilty

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[lima-pcp.livejournal.com]

Not when apprehended on battlefields outside US borders.

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[tj642.livejournal.com]

Terrorists? Define the term? Were WE not "terrorists" during our revolution? Attacking good king George? Our founder and sovereign?

Not that I'm siding with the terrotists, but...

[johnraptor.livejournal.com]

I think some significant distinctions can be made between what I would call terrorist (9/11 hijackers) and legitimate guerilla freedom fighters (US revolutionaries) but the lines are not always that clear. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

That goes double DUH for you.....

[mmmmjournal.livejournal.com]

You've outdone yourself with that one, genius.


If you can't tell the difference between evil murderous cold-blooded religious zealots whose only goal is the death and suffering of others, and revolutionaries fighting only for their own freedom, you have no business in an intelligent forum like this.

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[darthbeckman.livejournal.com]

No. The Revolutionaries wore uniforms, openly carried weapons, and didn't purposely target civilians.

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[tj642.livejournal.com]

Sure they do...they just don't have sovereign rights.

Hopefully we will conveign some good court dates for our office holding terrorists....GWB et. al.

They couldn't find a clue if it was jammed up their collective assholes!

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[dlmorgoth.livejournal.com]

Rights are not given by governments or by "conventions."

Rights

[johnraptor.livejournal.com]

On this point, I have to agree with you. "Rights" as our founding fathers thought of them, belonged to all people (granted, their definition of the word 'people' was a little narrower than ours). The government didn't give right, it was just there to ensure them.

Just because the letter of the law (the Geneva Convention) allows for torture in certain cercomstances doesn't make it right.

[mogador.livejournal.com]

Israel has some terrorism issues and even they know that torture is not useful in gathering useful data.

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

Well we're not using torture as most would think of when talking about torture.

[moderndayknight.livejournal.com]

Israel is notorious for the use of torture in cracking prisoners, and justifiably so.

[arland2012.livejournal.com]

ex post facto policies would not apply to the past

[evildemonkitty.livejournal.com]

Does someone actually believe this?

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

It's not like we're trying to be different than Saddam or Osama, I'm sure they'd be down with all our tactics.

[mmmmjournal.livejournal.com]

You don't know what real torture is, do you?

Anybody who compares George W. Bush to Saddam Hussein or Adolf Hitler is vastly underestimating the real-life horrors of those regimes and insulting those who actually had to live through it.

[itsjustkelly.livejournal.com]

Everything starts somewhere, and a lack of values is the perfect place.

[johnraptor.livejournal.com]

"George W. Bush, not as bad as Hitler."

There's a campaign slogan for ya. ;-)

[jimb.livejournal.com]

No joke. It isn't like Roosevelt was able to win WWII.