I never really liked Metallica. Even back in the day when everyone thought they were awesome, I just thought their music was way cheesy and a bit pretentious. My cousin tells me that's the point. I guess I just don't get it.
I think what it is, is that bands like Rush are a lot more fun. Sure they have over the top cheesy stuff, but it's like woo hoo! kickass right on! Etc. Metallica tries to be all serious and they think they're doing really serious important shit. And its still cheesy. The combination = douche bags.
I tend to take my metal a bit like a salid. A little thrash here, a little black there, cover it with some folk metal, and maybe some tidbits of numetal and hair metal sometimes.
I can't hate Metallica for protecting their music from being stolen as much as I can't hate a store owner for protecting their products from shoplifting.
Dang I thought you were a libertarian? This is all part of running a free enterprise...
Sounds a bit too convenient to me, I mean where does that stop? Is it ludicrous to be able to own physical structures of matter? Even if you think people can't own anything, that's not going to stop some from wanting to protect what they believe is their own creation.
In the past rich donors or societies sponsored artists, who composed and created performances, which were possible charged money for the attendees. Is this what you propose? If so, how does recording work in this world? Is it illegal to own a copy of any performance? If it is free, then how do the artists make any significant revenue from their work? Merchandising?
And I notice you didn't address the software question. Is Microsoft supposed to create an OS for good will? I realize that Google has a similar model now, but how would that have worked before the internet?
with regards to softwere at least, theres a very intresting paper, writen by eric raymond called the cathdrial and the bizzar, and two very diffrent softwere writing archutecures. the componey and the GNU open model...roughly speaking. it was writen befor GNU was a breakout, but its about those issues
i cant speek for almightygod (who has, infact, spoken for himself in anycase, but im just being clear) but IP rights in the us, and over here, are redcluses
the us establishs copyright for the commen good etc etc etc. however, the big media componys are pushing for an eternal copyright. every time it comes close to term, they ask for anther 20 years, and get it. copy right stands at something like 95 or 105 years. disney, a componey whos stolen every out of copyright book in history, has no right to harp on about this, but does. further more, alot of good can be done when something becomes public domaine. electronic music sampling is a good example. from (currently copyright, but rarely protected) works, alot of new work is created. in pertculer, look at the ahmen break.
its the most sampled peace of music in the world. its importent too alot of music. and if it was protected then alot of that music would have been lost. and its good music. just like cindrella is a good film. but if copyright goes on for perpetuty then creativity will be stiffled. and if diseny, sony et al have there way, thats exaxtly what will happen
this isnt defending pricacy, or attacking it, but ip laws are pritty messed up.
oh I'm not going to argue that copyright isn't exploited and hasn't gotten out of hand, it has.
However Metallica wants to protect whole songs of theirs from being taken without payment, songs that at least at the time of Napster were still relatively new. I can't say I blame them...
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Date: 2011-04-17 08:40 am (UTC)I always thought prog rock bands were pretty much serious about their stuff, didn't they want to make rock-n-roll on par with classical music?
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Date: 2011-04-17 05:04 pm (UTC)KMFDM: cheesy but they do it right.
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Date: 2011-04-16 06:49 pm (UTC)http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.ASP
you heard it here first
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Date: 2011-04-16 07:20 pm (UTC)well, that, and the fact that roleplay fuckin rocks!
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Date: 2011-04-17 02:41 am (UTC)Dang I thought you were a libertarian? This is all part of running a free enterprise...
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Date: 2011-04-17 05:05 pm (UTC)If so, how does recording work in this world? Is it illegal to own a copy of any performance? If it is free, then how do the artists make any significant revenue from their work? Merchandising?
And I notice you didn't address the software question. Is Microsoft supposed to create an OS for good will? I realize that Google has a similar model now, but how would that have worked before the internet?
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Date: 2011-04-18 08:34 am (UTC)also, writing this on linux XD
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Date: 2011-04-18 08:31 am (UTC)the us establishs copyright for the commen good etc etc etc. however, the big media componys are pushing for an eternal copyright. every time it comes close to term, they ask for anther 20 years, and get it. copy right stands at something like 95 or 105 years. disney, a componey whos stolen every out of copyright book in history, has no right to harp on about this, but does. further more, alot of good can be done when something becomes public domaine. electronic music sampling is a good example. from (currently copyright, but rarely protected) works, alot of new work is created. in pertculer, look at the ahmen break.
its the most sampled peace of music in the world. its importent too alot of music. and if it was protected then alot of that music would have been lost. and its good music. just like cindrella is a good film. but if copyright goes on for perpetuty then creativity will be stiffled. and if diseny, sony et al have there way, thats exaxtly what will happen
this isnt defending pricacy, or attacking it, but ip laws are pritty messed up.
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Date: 2011-04-18 08:41 am (UTC)However Metallica wants to protect whole songs of theirs from being taken without payment, songs that at least at the time of Napster were still relatively new. I can't say I blame them...