Date: 2011-04-16 04:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-16 05:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-16 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
I never really liked Metallica. Even back in the day when everyone thought they were awesome, I just thought their music was way cheesy and a bit pretentious. My cousin tells me that's the point. I guess I just don't get it.

Date: 2011-04-16 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Did you like Rush or Van Halen or King Crimson?

Date: 2011-04-16 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Rush has some ok stuff.

Date: 2011-04-16 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
I think what it is, is that bands like Rush are a lot more fun. Sure they have over the top cheesy stuff, but it's like woo hoo! kickass right on! Etc. Metallica tries to be all serious and they think they're doing really serious important shit. And its still cheesy. The combination = douche bags.

Date: 2011-04-16 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Yep. Entirely to self-serious. Harry Shearer did some nice parodies of them back in the day.

Date: 2011-04-17 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Probably shouldn't mention I like industrial, they can be a bit overly serious sometimes ._.;

I always thought prog rock bands were pretty much serious about their stuff, didn't they want to make rock-n-roll on par with classical music?

Date: 2011-04-17 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
who am I kidding the 80's was cheesy and a bit pretentious

Date: 2011-04-17 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
I like quite a bit of industrial myself. Again I feel there is a fine line between cheesy but its ok and cheesy unintentionally, or not cheesy though.

KMFDM: cheesy but they do it right.

Date: 2011-04-17 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
oh yes, wish more bands had their sense of humor

King Crimsom

Date: 2011-04-16 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-croix-wis.livejournal.com
Just because King Crimsom is loud does not put them in the same category as the thrashers.

Re: King Crimson

Date: 2011-04-16 09:42 pm (UTC)

Re: King Crimsom

Date: 2011-04-17 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Point ceded.

Date: 2011-04-17 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Love them. Very wonderful stuff.

Date: 2011-04-16 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
Is it Metallica specifically you don't like or thrash metal in general? What do you think of Megadeth, Slayer, and Antrax?

Date: 2011-04-17 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I think we know lafin's answer

Date: 2011-04-16 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Not really my thing.

Date: 2011-04-17 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I tend to take my metal a bit like a salid. A little thrash here, a little black there, cover it with some folk metal, and maybe some tidbits of numetal and hair metal sometimes.

Date: 2011-04-17 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
No speed or power metal?

Date: 2011-04-16 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
but Jesus is f'n' metal?

Date: 2011-04-16 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
rock and/or roll isnt the only thing endagering your eternal soul

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.ASP

you heard it here first

Date: 2011-04-16 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
also, girls kissing.

Date: 2011-04-16 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
No way! Girls kissing is teh HAWT!1!!

Date: 2011-04-16 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
Ugh, that comic again. Makes Mazes and Monsters look good by comparison.

Date: 2011-04-16 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
i will never get sick of dark dungion. its vauge promis of the real power is the only reson i roleplay anymore

well, that, and the fact that roleplay fuckin rocks!

Date: 2011-04-16 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
man I can only lol right now

Date: 2011-04-17 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kip-w.livejournal.com
Christ: What an Asshole!

Date: 2011-04-17 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Christ: Jesus fucking Christ: "Jesus fucking Christ What an asshole!" , What an Asshole!

Date: 2011-04-17 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
second one is pure class!
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Date: 2011-04-17 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terminator44.livejournal.com
Even Lars Ulrich knows it's wrong.

Date: 2011-04-18 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
you can just ask him

Date: 2011-04-17 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I can't hate Metallica for protecting their music from being stolen as much as I can't hate a store owner for protecting their products from shoplifting.

Dang I thought you were a libertarian? This is all part of running a free enterprise...
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Date: 2011-04-17 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Sounds a bit too convenient to me, I mean where does that stop? Is it ludicrous to be able to own physical structures of matter? Even if you think people can't own anything, that's not going to stop some from wanting to protect what they believe is their own creation.
Edited Date: 2011-04-17 03:07 am (UTC)
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Date: 2011-04-17 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragnarok-now.livejournal.com
In this world why would anyone ever create music, software or any other non-tangible valuable good?

Date: 2011-04-17 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
doing for the art I guess, artists don't need to eat you know.
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Date: 2011-04-17 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragnarok-now.livejournal.com
In the past rich donors or societies sponsored artists, who composed and created performances, which were possible charged money for the attendees. Is this what you propose?
If so, how does recording work in this world? Is it illegal to own a copy of any performance? If it is free, then how do the artists make any significant revenue from their work? Merchandising?

And I notice you didn't address the software question. Is Microsoft supposed to create an OS for good will? I realize that Google has a similar model now, but how would that have worked before the internet?

Date: 2011-04-18 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
how do you stand on softwere patents? as opposed to softwere copyright/left?

Date: 2011-04-18 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
with regards to softwere at least, theres a very intresting paper, writen by eric raymond called the cathdrial and the bizzar, and two very diffrent softwere writing archutecures. the componey and the GNU open model...roughly speaking. it was writen befor GNU was a breakout, but its about those issues

also, writing this on linux XD

Date: 2011-04-18 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
i cant speek for almightygod (who has, infact, spoken for himself in anycase, but im just being clear) but IP rights in the us, and over here, are redcluses

the us establishs copyright for the commen good etc etc etc. however, the big media componys are pushing for an eternal copyright. every time it comes close to term, they ask for anther 20 years, and get it. copy right stands at something like 95 or 105 years. disney, a componey whos stolen every out of copyright book in history, has no right to harp on about this, but does. further more, alot of good can be done when something becomes public domaine. electronic music sampling is a good example. from (currently copyright, but rarely protected) works, alot of new work is created. in pertculer, look at the ahmen break.



its the most sampled peace of music in the world. its importent too alot of music. and if it was protected then alot of that music would have been lost. and its good music. just like cindrella is a good film. but if copyright goes on for perpetuty then creativity will be stiffled. and if diseny, sony et al have there way, thats exaxtly what will happen

this isnt defending pricacy, or attacking it, but ip laws are pritty messed up.

Date: 2011-04-18 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
oh I'm not going to argue that copyright isn't exploited and hasn't gotten out of hand, it has.

However Metallica wants to protect whole songs of theirs from being taken without payment, songs that at least at the time of Napster were still relatively new. I can't say I blame them...

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