Date: 2009-10-11 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
This one is quite far from being dumb. Some liberals better give it a thought.
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Date: 2009-10-11 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
I think the message here is rather obvious. This guy thinks that through accepting some elements of different culture he can be accepted among the people of that culture. But he's wrong.

This is a very old mistake, typical for idealistic people who can't tell their imaginary world from reality.

Date: 2009-10-11 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com
so what is your suggestion? constant division? or assimilation of their culture into white culture?

Date: 2009-10-11 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Bombing them.

Date: 2009-10-11 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Division is not a solution. Neither is a policy of cultural assimilation. The only way is to quit subsidizing parasitism and let everybody into normal economy. Economy-based death of ghetto. It's already happening, but too slowly. Government just has to get out of the way.

Re: fixed that for you.

Date: 2009-10-11 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
That is so obsolete.

Date: 2009-10-12 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] therocket-queen.livejournal.com
Um, economy based death of ghetto? I live in west harlem. The ghetto is growing... and the white people are moving in too.

Date: 2009-10-12 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
That's the core difference (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html) between liberals and conservatives. When conservative wants to help somebody, he does that with his own money through charity. When liberal thinks somebody needs help, he prefers to help with other people's money through government.

Date: 2009-10-12 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
when you quote Bill Kristof, you automatically lose, you know that, right? It's like calling someone a Nazi. "You quoted Bill Kristof, your argument is invalid."

Date: 2009-10-12 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Is Nicholas D. Kristof alias of Bill Kristof? Didn't know that.

How about just Arthur C. Brooks, who actually did the research? Good enough?

Date: 2009-10-12 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Besides, liberals are unnecessary rude when the got no valid arguments. Really sad.

Date: 2009-10-12 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torasama.livejournal.com
Seriously, I love you right now.

Date: 2009-10-11 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spencer-mato.livejournal.com
Actually, at this point in the series he's battling with himself being a racist because he chooses white bread over wheat ect. He's trying to become a non-racist by getting in touch with black culture. Since Slick is constantly doing moronic shit and taking things over the top it fits the character.
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Date: 2009-10-11 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pragmatic-chimp.livejournal.com
Yep. Nail on head.

Date: 2009-10-11 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
General agreement.

Also, it has been suggested that Tats watches this site. Which is my interpretation of the subtext of the work of genius that is the juxtaposition of this strip with the picture of lather's night out with the lads.

As for the underlying racist assumptions in the original strip, I feel I go with [livejournal.com profile] uberreiniger mainly because I'm amused: but I may well feel guilty in the morning.

[Turns towards [livejournal.com profile] i and tugs forelock] Your servant, sir.

Date: 2009-10-11 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
These two takes are not in contradiction. The way of thinking I was talking about always implies a serious lack of understanding. Including mistaking stereotypes for real cultural elements.

Date: 2009-10-12 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torasama.livejournal.com
That's how I read it as well.

Date: 2009-10-12 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
and you think that some monolithic group of "liberals" try to do that?

Anyway, you've got it wrong. Slick is trying to assimilate into black culture -- something that conservatives complain that immigrants DON'T do all the time.

Date: 2009-10-12 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
I said "some liberals". Especially, you know, reality-based.

Conservative complain that immigrants don't assimilate into black culture? Interesting; never heard that before. Talking to you is really educational.

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