Setting the record straight

[dwer.livejournal.com]

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[lather2002.livejournal.com]

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/48544571@N00/3917514658/)

[dwer.livejournal.com]

Not that that this has anything to do with anything.

The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so. I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it, the People's Money out of their Pockets, tho' only to pay the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the People, is their Creditors' Money, and no longer the Money of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell'd to pay by some Law.

All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.html

[mikepictor.livejournal.com]

aaaaaand checkmate. Nicely done.

[johnny9fingers.livejournal.com]

If I weren't married and a chap I'd want your babies for that.

This is one of the great documents of the USA. Perhaps more Americans should know of its existence. I'm bookmarking this. Shout it from the rooftops. Post it on the doors of town halls. Christmas Day 1783. Benjamin Franklin to Robert Morris.

[Takes off hat, tugs forelock, and bows.]

You sir, are a patriot, a scholar, and a credit both to your nation and humanity in general. And more, I have added you to my f-list.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

:D Well, I'll friend you back. I was just lucky enough to have someone post it privately, and I've been putting it to good use ever since...

[donkeyjon.livejournal.com]

It is important to note that Franklin's stance in that second paragraph was not shared by many of the founding fathers. However, I would say that the first paragraph rings quite true.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

and it was likely shared by others. The point is, it's a clear statement of Society and it's required costs by one of the men who shaped our country.

[mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com]

you're supposed to earn the right to healthcare?

[lather2002.livejournal.com]

You should earn enough to pay for your own care. But hey, at my official income you will be one of the millions of taxpayers paying for mine if the health care bill passes, hahahahahahahahahaha ....

[jafesq.livejournal.com]

And if some illegal immigrant (who works under the table for some employer who wants to avoid taxes etc) gets hit by a car we should leave him on the street to die? Who should pay to bury him?

[lather2002.livejournal.com]

Hey. Once he is treated and fixed, unless he dies, he should be sent back to the country of his origin with a computer chip in his head that will explode if he tries to enter the country illegally again. If he dies of his injuries from sait auto accident, well, grind his body up and use it for fertilizer.

[dwer.livejournal.com]

and as an upstanding member of society, I am happy to contribute to the wellbeing of my fellow citizens, even when one of them is a racist like you.

[lather2002.livejournal.com]

haha, you are such a joke. Typical behavior from one such as yourself. Keep trying to attack an political adversary until ... Sorry, fail you do. haha

[lather2002.livejournal.com]

Nope. I did, but could not afford it. But hey, I am not blaming or demanding that the U S Government should pay for it. But if they end up doing so, well, there you go. I mean from what I understand I will have no choice for it will be mandated.

[mikepictor.livejournal.com]

You know, you may be surprised at the number of people that are ok with that. A little selflessness can go a long way, and is sorely needed in this world.

[i.livejournal.com]

you have earned the contempt of almost everyone here. good on ya, mate!

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Almost?

[i.livejournal.com]

i think merig00 might have a secret crush.

[new-wave-witch.livejournal.com]

he doesn't know how to quit him.

Don't use it if you don't want to-pay for it

[jafesq.livejournal.com]

What is really choice is the congressman who wrote the Washington DC transit system to complain that the GOVERNMENT run system didn't provide fabulous service to all of those teabaggers who wanted to protest how bad and rotten the government is.
Ahhhhh the irony.

Re: Don't use it if you don't want to-pay for it

[lather2002.livejournal.com]

Guess the U S Postal Service is not once what it was. Maybe next time he should send it Fed-Ex ? haha

Re: Don't use it if you don't want to-pay for it

[jafesq.livejournal.com]

Or maybe he could just kinda acknowledge that there are somethings HE and his FRIENDS rely on that government provides and accept that taxes are the way we provide a civil society (on the other hand, none of the teabaggers seem to want to live in a civil society)

Re: Don't use it if you don't want to-pay for it

[dwer.livejournal.com]

T-R-A-N-S-I-T. TRANSIT. Not postal system. And the US postal system ran extremely well for well over 200 years. Name me a for-profit corporation that's run as well, and I'll tell you you're a liar.

Never mind the hypocrisy of a teabagger congressman complaining about how the teabagger idiot protesters had to take a cab instead of having room for them on the TAXPAYER FUNDED MUNICIPAL TRANSIT SYSTEM.

Re: Don't use it if you don't want to-pay for it

[lather2002.livejournal.com]

Yes, they are run so well that they are so much in the red that they are thinking of cutting mail service on certain days.