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Date: 2009-09-09 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Yeah, rain ain't gonna kill ya. A brimmed hat would help, though.

Date: 2009-09-09 06:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-09 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
He's heroically keeping dry through his obergleiss, or whatever.

http://www.objectivistcenter.org/cth-32-405-FAQ_Libertarianism_Objectivism.aspx
http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Rowlands/Differences_between_Objectivist_Politics_and_Libertarian_Politics.shtml
http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/399.html

ah, semantixx

Date: 2009-09-09 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com
I love idiot Ayn Rand people.

The great success of modern conservatism (Reagan conservatism, as opposed to say, classic Eisenhower conservatism) is convincing average Joes-- middle class, working class, or worse-- that protecting corporate chieftains from government regulation or intervention is their cause too.

It's no coincidence that the tea party movement originated from a rant by CNBC pundit Rick Santelli on the floor of the Chicago stock market, in which he not only called for the tea parties, but also insisted that those facing foreclosure were "losers". Or that the taxes that the teabaggers were ranting about affect only those making over $250,000 while most of America (including, I'm sure, 98% of the teabaggers) got a tax break from Obama. They've taken corporatism and repackaged it as a populist movement.
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Date: 2009-09-09 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] american-geist.livejournal.com
Nice ad hominem attack. You complain liberals are whiny and stupid, yet you refuse to address a well reasoned post.

You sir, are the sad one.

Date: 2009-09-09 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] blueduck37 has never complained about paying taxes (to my knowledge), or expressed any expectation of a handout. you, on the other hand, proudly ran away from your country so you wouldn't have to support its infrastructure and work to make it a better place, and are skulking in another country freeloading off their socialized system.
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Date: 2009-09-09 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
got one, paying taxes (unlike you). not begging. actually have nuts (unlike you). jesus is imaginary (kinda like your intellect).

Date: 2009-09-09 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jblaque.livejournal.com
"I've been on food stamps and welfare. Did anybody help me out? No!" - Craig T. Nelson

Date: 2009-09-10 01:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-09 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com
blueduck37 has never complained about paying taxes (to my knowledge), or expressed any expectation of a handout.

Correct on both counts, for the record.
From: [identity profile] spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com
Seriously, do you ever read your own conversation threads sometimes and all like, "Whoa, that has nothing to do with the comment above it. What the hell was I thinking about?"

Date: 2009-09-09 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
That's nice, dear.

Date: 2009-09-09 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Says the whiny little bitch that moved to Italy.

Date: 2009-09-09 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jblaque.livejournal.com
...and who sucks off his new country's public health care system.

The irony is delicious, yes?

Date: 2009-09-09 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com
Way to ignore the substance of what I actually wrote.

Not to sound like a conservative, but I won't have my patriotism and my dedication to working hard and the American dream challenged by a guy who's so dumb that he decided to escape America's evil "socialism" by going to Europe, where almost every country has policies and social programs and laws that make America look like Barry Goldwater's wet dream.

Date: 2009-09-09 07:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-10 05:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-09 07:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-09 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com
I'll also add that I have also always believed that, if you take this type of Rand-ian free-market ideology at its word, that there is nothing wrong with what was done by Madoff, Enron executives, or anyone who helped make the housing bubble possible, etc. But as those things imploded, and the public realized they'd be scammed, conservatives insisted this was not connected to free-market principles and they were horrified and etc. Kind of like the old saying... it's only a crime if you get caught.

Because really... in the end, how was what people did with the sub-prime mortgages, and repackaged and resold mortgage-back-securities, etc, any different than what Madoff did (in terms of economic ethics, not the exact letters and loopholes of the law)?

Despite a few Joe The Plumber types picking up copies of Rand because they feel Obama is a tyrant, I think most Americans right now get why having a system of checks and balances on the market is good for us all. The real anger out there, regardless of these book sales, is to the extent that Obama and Geithner and others have enabled the market's failures with bailouts.

I can respect libertarians when it comes to social issues, but when it comes to economics, I just think they're basically anarchists.

Date: 2009-09-09 07:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-09 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
like republicans, their positions on social issues are only there to get votes from people they are going to fuck over with their economic policies.

Date: 2009-09-10 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadpansev.livejournal.com
LOL, yeah libertarians are all about "getting the votes".

Date: 2009-09-10 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com
Libertarians are all about voting for Democrats.

Date: 2009-09-09 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
pretty cheesy photoshop

Date: 2009-09-09 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
enforced umbrella ownership is theft.

Date: 2009-09-09 06:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-10 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nacreousflaneur.livejournal.com
But hey! At least he spelled "Institute" right!

Date: 2009-09-10 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-la-laurabee.livejournal.com
He thinks he's smarter than a few drops of water!

Date: 2009-09-10 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadaria.livejournal.com
Oh god Ayn Rand.
I tried to read a book of hers for an essay contest that came through my high school and I quit because it made me want to stab my eyes out and the resulting essay was deemed "too sarcastic" by my teacher to be sent in.

Date: 2009-09-10 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spencer-mato.livejournal.com
God I hate Ayn Rand and Libertarians.

Date: 2009-09-11 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donolectic.livejournal.com
The rain is symbolic. Each drop adds to the flood of taxation that's drowning him.

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