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[jamie-miller.livejournal.com]

Brilliant! True freedom means that everyone can carry loaded guns onto an airplane, amirite?

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[ygrii-blop.livejournal.com]

Maybe if the U.S. weren't full of semi-sentient boobs with poor impulse control, we could have the gun-toting paradise the right dreams of. But until these same wingers stop voting against the very social safety nets that might help these unfortunates learn to control themselves, then we just have to suffer. But I know where the cartoonist is coming from. Man, if only I could carry my flamethrower with me everywhere I go! I'm getting wood just thinking about it.

[thies.livejournal.com]

flamethrowers aren't that heavily regulated

[ygrii-blop.livejournal.com]

Just try carrying one into your local police station or post office and see what happens. People tend to get upset. Or maybe that was because I was screaming, "DEATH TO THE WAR PIGS!"

[faylnncortez.livejournal.com]

I <3 You

[thies.livejournal.com]

http://www.cracked.com/article_17016_7-items-you-wont-believe-are-actually-legal.html

[thies.livejournal.com]

and terrorists would still carry boxcutters

[puttana.livejournal.com]

of course they would, because imigunts wouldn't be allowed to carry guns, duh!

[thies.livejournal.com]

them law abiding terrrists are awesome!

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking; if you could carry guns on to aeroplanes, why do the terrorists still have box cutters?

[jessica-leah.livejournal.com]

Apparently they're not very bright.

[konora.livejournal.com]

Right. Because everyone in the country wants to carry a gun but just can't because of them evil liberals stopping them!

Also, I can't help but think that all those people could have just bodily overwhelmed 3 guys with box cutters. Unless the cartoonist is implying that if this were "truly The Land of the Free" the general public would gain the confidence to defend themselves and others via a firearm. Saying that the problem is about fewer guns or fewer rights to carry loaded guns onto aircraft is over-simplifying.

Also, what's up with the Terror Triplets going on there? Everyone else is diversified, but all terrorists look the same?

[puttana.livejournal.com]

hey man, one has a way bigger nose than the other one. Not to mention everyong knows they all look the same, isn't that a legal defense now or something?

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Notice they all also look like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

[xforge.livejournal.com]

And if this were the Land of the Smart those passengers would have realized you can't do all that much harm with a box knife and would have overwhelmed those greasy pathetic assholes with blankets, pillows, food trays, carryon bags, dirty diapers and any number of other things. By the time the flight ended they would have all been curled up in the corner weeping and begging no more, please Allah, no more.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

Yeah, nowadays I'm thinking *parts* of them would make it to the plane's original destination. Maybe parts. Very very small parts.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

The passengers realized that it wasn't your typical hijacking and fought back.

And they managed this without the benefit of having seen the World Changed by 9/11.

[jestingrabbit.livejournal.com]

Its my understanding that some of them got cell phone calls that detailed what was occuring elsewhere.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

What kind of dirty terrorist doesn't turn their cellphone off in the plane?!

This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

1. Never cover (aim at) your fellow passengers.

2. Those bullets will go through (or more likely, miss) the terrorists at that range, and puncture the hull, causing everyone to get sucked out at 50k feet.

3. Not to dis those that died on 9/11, but if you knew (given the precedent of 9/11) that you were going to be flown into a fucking building, I don't care what they have, I'm jumpin' some motherfuckers and so are the rest of the passengers. Better for a few of us to get razor cuts or die than for all to disintegrate in a firey ball of fire. See, UA Flight 93.

Sorry, only Air Marshals should be armed on a plane. Highly trained professionals.
Too many variables requiring too much training to keep from killing everyone else.

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[ygrii-blop.livejournal.com]

Re: #3: Yeah, because prior to 9/11, no one really thought terrists would fly airplanes into big buildings. It's likely the passengers on those flights thought they were going to Havana or someplace. Plus, there were a couple of people-- a stewardess, IIRC, and maybe the pilots-- who were killed with those box cutters. If my choices are get my throat cut or go sit on the runway in Havana for a couple of days while negotiators do their thing, I'll opt for Havana. But yeah, 9/11 changed all that. If I'm on a flight now and somebody starts waving a boxcutter around demanding to go to the cockpit, I'm fightin'.

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[jessica-leah.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I can't possibly know first hand. But I'd imagine even the slimmest hope that if you keep your mouth shut, you'll survive... well that'd probably be enough to keep me in my seat. But once death is certain, who knows?

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

Fuckin a.

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I have a mellow demeanor but internally I'm a bit twitchy; anybody stands up and starts waving anything more harmful than a ballpoint pen, the surgeons are gonna be all standing around scratching their heads trying to figure out how it got that far up his ass.

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[vivianc1968.livejournal.com]

Sorry, "gun nut" but a couple bullet holes will not suck anyone out of the plane. Witness what happens when you punch a football-sized hole in a 737 at 32,000 feet (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-14-southwest-plane-hole_N.htm). You are falling for Hollywood physics and not reality. Mythbusters even did an episode on it.

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[rumorsofwar.livejournal.com]

I agree. Science is awesome. Facts are awesome. Hyperbole is lame. And forget aircraft! Can you imagine if we had a community of people who used hyperbole instead of science and reason to dictate public policy?

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

I could not imagine that!

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[xforge.livejournal.com]

http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

WIN

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

It wont suck anyone out the plane -- although it would probably scare the CRAP out of everyone to see air masks drop down and feel the cabin get cold quickly...

Fair enough.

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

GIven that you objectively proved your statement, I concede that people might not get sucked out of the plane. (See how well that worked? You might try it more often. )

The fact remains, though, that what is depicted in this comic is both ridiculous and bad policy. If you'd like to argue that, I'm in.

Re: This gun nut sez 'this comic is retarded'.

[donolectic.livejournal.com]

Thanks for that link and the fact check! I had the same misconception.

[jessica-leah.livejournal.com]

Thanks for posting. It did indeed make me laugh :)

[inibo.livejournal.com]

L. Neil Smith, L. Neil Smith, L. Neil Smith.

I thoroughly enjoyed The Probability Broach (http://www.bigheadpress.com/tpbtgn), by L. NEIL SMITH as well as Roswell, Texas (http://www.bigheadpress.com/roswell) by L. NEIL SMITH.

[mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com]

I have Probability Broach.

Suffice to say, it's hilarious.

[jamie-miller.livejournal.com]

I got to page 55 before my "this is interesting" reaction was overridden by my "OH PLEASE" reaction.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

I got about as far. "Libertarianism = allow chimps to talk!" is about the point where I gave up.

[rumorsofwar.livejournal.com]

Of course, the terrorists wouldn't have only had box cutters if they could have brought automatic weapons on board.

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

and in a dispute, it's there for easy access -- and we all KNOW
how great things get if a gun goes off through the hull of a pressurized cabin!!

amirite!!?

[chessdev.livejournal.com]

yes I know it wont crash the plane - but it sucks anyway

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

A good place to stick yor copy of skymall

[pacotelic.livejournal.com]

arf, your

[donolectic.livejournal.com]

Nice pun.

[hittokiri-korru.livejournal.com]

not that laser-pointers ever did anyone good when they had pepperspray in their eyes.

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