Date: 2009-07-23 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
(rolls eyes)

Date: 2009-07-23 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
better than rolling dice - the preferred method of forecasting in Washington, DC nowdays

Date: 2009-07-23 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylaptopisevil.livejournal.com
It's funny because change is what the President wanted in a social sense, not a physical amount of money.

Date: 2009-07-23 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com
^
I like this one better.

Date: 2009-07-23 04:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-23 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briansue.livejournal.com
Two thumbs up!

Date: 2009-07-23 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlc20thmaine.livejournal.com
So you admit that the government cannot be trusted as stewards of our money.

Date: 2009-07-23 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
I admit conservatives cannot be trusted as stewards of our money.

Date: 2009-07-23 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
looks more like his point at the last adminstrationa and pointing out thay couldnt be trusted. reminds me of the magic GOP proof. goverment cant be trusted to work. the GOP admistration dosent work. proof prostive that goverment dosent work.

sept that it can, and dose. massive change is thin at the present, so, if you'll humor me, ill go back a good 50 years and use the labour goverment of 1945 to 1950. in five years, thay started demoblistion, helped put germany to terms and mainted order in there sector of the country, and an enacted a plan for change that made the lives of everyone beter, giving every person free helth care, building millions of houses, clearing slums and chasing the atom bomb that was rightfuly the uk's, but was denined by the us nuclear crazy. thay balanced a runied economy, and manged to start pushing ahead.

in five years, after a war witch nearly bancrupted the nation. by all rights i would trust that goverment with my money, and my country. goverment can work, if you give it a chance. this is one such chance, to improve the lot of millions, and bost the us econmey by dropping helth care costs, witch in some cases rose 40% last year. helth insrunce indestury is going crazy, and need reinging in. if not the goverment, then who? if not now, then when?

Date: 2009-07-23 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i.livejournal.com
no government you would vote for.

Date: 2009-07-23 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] star-white.livejournal.com
I sense a new trend coming on of editing comics we don't enjoy to heighten their enjoyment value.

Date: 2009-07-24 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donolectic.livejournal.com
I fully support and empower this trend.

Date: 2009-07-26 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Well done.

Date: 2009-07-23 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com
I am kind of looking forward to the next time a Republican is president. That is the day they will magically stop caring about 'big government' and deficits again.

Then government can go back to its true priorities... military occupations, endless tax cuts, and forcing feeding tubes into brain-dead ladies.

Date: 2009-07-23 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
my god, you just gave me an amazing idea.

all those filthy poor people who are hungry, if thay want to eat, thay just need to be brain dead. and if thay wont do that, then clearly, there not dedcated to finding food, and can go hungry for it.

Date: 2009-07-23 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
I like how the same people who scream that Obama's stimulus cost A TRILLION DOLLARS ZOMG, but then they say BUT ONLY 2% IS BEING USED THIS YEAR.

Which is it, emptying the treasury, or not emptying the treasury?

Date: 2009-07-23 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redheadrat.livejournal.com
GAAP says it is emptying the treasury as it is a liability and has to be recorded on the books.

Date: 2009-07-23 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nacreousflaneur.livejournal.com
I really hope that we do see some sort of nationalized health care. Then we can all look forward to waiting for months in line to see a doctor. (http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE56M14E20090723) It's the perfect cure for overpopulation!

Date: 2009-07-23 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgseawolf.livejournal.com
Heh. So you expect USA would be the only country in the world who wouldn't manage to create a decent health care system? Surely even you can do it!

Date: 2009-07-23 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
People wait months to see doctors, ahem, NOW. (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=114116944936&ref=mf)

Date: 2009-07-23 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nacreousflaneur.livejournal.com
If health insurance becomes required for all Americans, as some lawmakers desire, expect these waiting lists to grow.

Exactly. So imagine how much worse it will be if Obamacare goes through.

In all seriousness, I'm not opposed to some form of nationalized healthcare. There are some good reasons why such is desirable, even from a conservative point of view. First, it would take the onus off of employers, who could then use those resources to expand other areas of the business. Second, it would encourage would-be entrepreneurs to take more risks without worrying about losing their health care coverage.

But to really reform the system, we should first explore tort reform, and pass legislation limiting awards from malpractice suits. That, and we should overhaul the AMA and FDA, to allow more doctors to be accredited and to encourage generic versions of medication to be produced and distributed. That would be real Change!

Date: 2009-07-24 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
That, and we should overhaul the AMA and FDA, to allow more doctors to be accredited and to encourage generic versions of medication to be produced and distributed.

This.

Date: 2009-07-23 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlc20thmaine.livejournal.com
For some specialties in some cities. Based on an unknown criteria, based on some anonymous facebook posting.

Date: 2009-07-24 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Yeah how about that, just like your "proof" links

Date: 2009-07-23 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
My dentist must be nationalized. It always takes months to get in to see him.

Date: 2009-07-23 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com
mabby im missing the point, but im sure in the us there are a lot of people who would love to have the insrunce to alowe them to be able to wait for a doctor.

further, your arguemnt, whilst logical, isnt at all moral. yes, waiting lists will go up for things if everyone is covered. but to object to it on that frount is redculses. there are people who are unable to get on a waiting list, who are literly dieing for the chance. waiting is the least of there worrys.

Date: 2009-07-23 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nacreousflaneur.livejournal.com
Understood, which is why I would be in favor of some sort of tiered nationalized health care system. Where, say, those who could afford to pay would get in at the front of the line, so to speak, while those who couldn't would still have to wait months to see a doctor, but at least they wouldn't have to mortgage the house to pay for it when they do.

Date: 2009-07-23 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nacreousflaneur.livejournal.com
pay for a premium insurance, I mean.

Date: 2009-07-24 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
That's what we have here in Oz. It's not perfect, but it seems to work better than everywhere else in the world.

Date: 2009-07-23 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inibo.livejournal.com
Whoever drew that cartoon has no clue about what constitutes money in our economy and how it is created. Of course that only puts the artist in the same class as about 90% of the public. Paul Warburg (http://www.frugalfun.com/jekylisland.html) is laughing in Hell.

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