Birthers of the World, Unite!

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

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You know what was awesome? A couple years ago when Bill Maher ran into his studio audience to throw out and yell at some 9/11 conspiracy theorists who were heckling his show. My kingdom for a Republican with the integrity to do the same with these fucking racist loonies.

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[johnny9fingers.livejournal.com]

My kingdom for a Republican with the integrity to do the same with these fucking racist loonies.

Hear hear!

[jamie-miller.livejournal.com]

I have been Googling all morning in an attempt to find a video of Bill Maher's righteous tirade that hasn't been removed for TOS violation.

[robert-johnson.livejournal.com]

They might be barking up the wrong tree, but what makes them racist? He should just get the birth certificate and then release it. I would.

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

If you don't think that racism and fear is what is fueling these people, you are naive. I am happy to provide many links and proof later if need be.

And did you even watch the damn clip? The birth certificate has been released, as has other proof that debunks this nonsense. Besides, the President shouldn't have to bend over backwards to appease conspiracy loons.

[robert-johnson.livejournal.com]

**edit and the original birth certificate hasn't been released. I think it goes against state law to release it. Hawaii keeps the long certificate, just like Texas. If I need a replacement, I'd get a certificate of live birth dated the day it's printed. Which would be fine, and then there are the birth announcements in the newspaper, which should suffice, but if they don't then just print the damn thing and release it.

I don't know what else fuels conspiracy theorists besides fear. I have still not seen justification for these particular conspiracists to be called racist. If you have it, then let's see it. I am most definitely not naïve.

I did watch the clip. I didn't see any racism in the clip. If there are racist conspiracy nuts who want to see the birth certificate then the surest way to deflate them would be to show it to them racists or no.

It seems like a tempest in a teapot, but I would still say just bring out the certificate and let people see it and then that's all done.

I wouldn't mind making the President show his birth certificate. I don't think it's an affront to the nation or the office.

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

Again, the proof is already out there. This needs no further debunking. The President owes nothing to these fucking lunatics. I mean, a prominent conservative member here-- reality_hammer-- wrote on his blog a few months a rant about arming up with guns because of the impending Obama concentration camps. Should Obama reassure him that FEMA isn't opening up concentration camps? Should he call up Rep. Bachmann and reassure her that the census isn't a conspiracy to enslave Americans? No. These people are paranoid nutjobs. They should be ignored... not fueled like key conservative figures are doing.

As for the racism issue... honestly, I could sit here all day and provide you with links to back that up, but I am at work, so I'll throw the cliff notes at you. These people are nothing more than extensions of these people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-Ijky95dc) from last year, insisting Obama was a secret Muslim and all that. It's just an outgrowth of the same racist paranoia. It's their next step.

The tea parties were filled with incredibly racist signs and rhetoric. And elsewhere too. I found-- in less than a minute of Googling-- the following: this (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/conservative_activist_forwards_racist_pic_showing.php?ref=fpa), this (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/15/racist-image-eyes/), this (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/17/yet-another-racist/), this (http://wonkette.com/403583/gop-gals-make-hilarious-obama-welfare-coupons), and this (http://wonkette.com/409676/young-republicans-leader-gal-thinks-its-super-funny-to-call-president-obama-a-coon-because-he-is-black). Like I said, if I had all day, I'd get you more.

Or, if you wanna check for yourself, go spend the afternoon surfing FreeRepublic.

[robert-johnson.livejournal.com]

I abhor racism. But I haven't yet seen a clear connection between the birth certifcate whackos and the other assorted pre election nutjobs and post election nutjobs. Thank's for the links, but none of them are a birther-racist connection.

Which is all I am saying. They could definetly be nuts or paranoid or whatever, but that doesn't make 'em racist.

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

Well if you can't see the interconnections there, I can't do anything about it.

But next time the GOP throws their anti-whatever Tea Parties, I'd encourage you to go and experience it live and in person. Or just listen to Rush Limbaugh. That's probably easier.

[robert-johnson.livejournal.com]

I am overseas. We don't have tea parties here except with tea. And the tea here is terrible.

I listened to Rush at home because you can't condemn if you don't listen first. I know what he was/is on about. Never liked it.

I can see how you are making the connections. But the connections are spurious. "Opposition to Obama is often racist. Birthers oppose Obama, therefore they are racist." That doesn't fly. No offense.

I work and study at a politics institute. If I took that to work they would laugh at me. I would laugh at me.

Hell I am not even trying to be contradictory here, I thought you had an actual link from Birther conspiracists as actually having also also said something racist.

Now that I could have used at work. But if you don't have a direct connection, then just say so.

[blueduck37.livejournal.com]

Well here's two (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2009/04/the-rotting-racist-underbelly-of-the-tea-party-protests/) looks (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html) at the Tea Parties, which were a hotbed of both Birther-ism and racist rhetoric against Obama.

And since I brought up Limbaugh before, here's proof he is a Birther (http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/07/21/rush-limbaugh-birther/) and a (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_05/018144.php) racist (http://newsone.blackplanet.com/obama/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/). For but one example.

[robert-johnson.livejournal.com]

I still can't see a direct link between Birthers and racism. There were a few reasonably offensive signs though, the white slavery, Jews in the ovens and homey the clown signs were the worst. Some might be racist, some other certainly are, but I am seeing more paranoia than racism there.

And I won't defend Limbaugh, but not all of those quotes are legit. What he has said is often bad enough.

[oronoda.livejournal.com]

Just thought I point out, you're pretty much saying who you associate with automatically means you're in the same boat as them in terms of beliefs. I know of MANY people who attended those tea parties who are not racist at all. The signs you show are really just the fringe of the movement. I can pull up racist statements from anti-war rallies too. It's the fringe and just because those types of people go to those things in which there are some racists doesn't automatically make all of them racist. It's like saying since I went to a liberal school makes me a democrat or the fact I'm military that I'm Christian. Additionally, I would be inclined to think the Tea Parties were racist if they had a racist slogan like, "Let's get black people back into the plantation" or something. But no, they're opposing the stimulus packages and they're against the ones Bush passed too.

If you cry this, then you might as well admit that Obama's association with Ayers means he's a socialist loon who seeks destruction of the the US.

I'm tired of people just simply shutting people down by calling them racist. If you toss a word around so easily, it loses its meaning for when a real case of racism comes up.

[funnygurusdca.livejournal.com]

The 'Birther’ Boom
The charge by some Republicans that Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen is actually gaining steam.

- link to story ...
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/birther-boom


These crazies claim that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. and they're all clamoring about how they wanna see his birth certificate.

Why not just check his mother's passport?

A passport is stamped when you arrive in another country, so there's a record that you were there.

Since his mother's presence would be required at the time of his birth, her passport would indicate where
she was when he was born.


Hint: Hawaii U.S.A.

[arkanjil.livejournal.com]

it doesn't matter what can be provided, it will always be 'forged', 'incomplete', 'photoshopped', etc, etc... it goes beyond all logic and reason as soon as you get to the idea that 40 years ago, a grand conspiracy was begun to falsify all the records for the future first black president of the United States. These are people who hate, and if they didn't have the 'Birther' movement to give their hatred some semblance of normality, then they'd find another excuse even flimsier