[identity profile] megiloth.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] politicartoons
It's been a little while since I've gotten all rambunctious in this fine community, so I figure I'd be the first one to post the anti-"Bush is a Monkey" video. I posted it on my LJ too, so I figured I would just spread the smiles around :)

Date: 2009-01-25 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borgseawolf.livejournal.com
Yeah, but with Obama it's just racist.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
When you stop to consider black people in America have long been called monkeys, apes, gorillas, chimps, etc., then yes, it becomes racist.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
Take it or leave it. I'm not playing this game with you.

okay, maybe I'll play

Date: 2009-01-25 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
Primates don't have fur. They have hair. Get your biology straight, mister. If you want to spread your message of 19th century beliefs you have to be credible, otherwise you come off like a spider monkey riding a Harley. No one gathers to watch you do it well, they just want to laugh at you when you fall on your keister.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
1) you're a dink
2) your video doesn't play worth crap
3) the act of comparing people with African-American ancestry to monkeys is in fact very, very much on record as being a racist act
4) did I mention you're a dink
5) and you're a troll
6) people who stereotype Democrats need to go set themselves on fire and be hit by a bus. HTH. HAND.

Date: 2009-01-25 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
I despise people who feign stupidity, nearly as much as I despise people who are stupid when they needn't be.

Date: 2009-01-25 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Where as you just got no room to talk, period.

Date: 2009-01-25 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Sure, that too. = )

Date: 2009-01-25 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luper.livejournal.com
please stay away from racial slurs

this post is bad enough without you adding to the racism

Date: 2009-01-25 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
I didn't employ racial slurs. I have never, ever in my very, very long life heard the word "dink" used to describe anyone's race. The fact that this idiot would point that out just proves what a useless turd of a jackass he is. And I would hope folks like you would have the werewithal not to be suckered in by his bullshit rhetoric. If indeed such bullshit could even be called rhetoric.

Date: 2009-01-25 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luper.livejournal.com
Dink
an Asian, esp. a Vietnamese. Also used as a disparaging term for a North Vietnamese soldier or guerrilla in the Vietnam War. Origin: 1965–70, Americanism; cf. Australian slang dink Chinese person; perh. back formation from dinky, reinforced by rhyme with Chink

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dink

Unless you were trying to say that the poster lived in a two-income household with no kids. Which I highly doubt.

Using racism to counteract racism is never a good idea.

Date: 2009-01-25 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Read what it is that I am typing right now: I didn't have the slightest idea that "dink" means what you and that dictionary say it means. If I didn't know it was a racial slur, it was not employed as such. All my life I have been calling people "dinks" to mean that I thought they were being bubbleheaded or outright stupid. How praytell exactly in all the fucking universe am I "using racism to counteract racism" if I haven't the slightest idea that the term I am employing is racist? That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard in my entire life and let me tell you, that is REALLY saying something.

Date: 2009-01-25 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luper.livejournal.com
Wow, you get worked up really fast.

I'm just telling you where the word comes from. So now that you know it has racist origins, you can stop using it.

It's similar to telling some people (who don't know anything about black oppression), that relating black people to monkeys (unless they seriously -do- look like one) is racist and has a long history in American black oppression. Once they're told, they should accept the facts and stop using it. You were told, before me, that it was racist, and you denied it without even a quick google search to find out if it was true or not. You're trying to stay in ignorance to protect your innocence, which frankly isn't working and is even more offensive.

A proper response would be, "I did not know that, I will stop."

Date: 2009-01-25 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
What "worked up!!??" You're the one that told me "using racism to counteract racism is never a good idea" AFTER I told you I didn't know the word was racist! A proper response to that is... what I said up there. If you were fishing for "I did not know that, I will stop" then what you might have said is something like "now that you know what the word actually is..." and let me come to my own conclusion. I despise holier-than-thouness and it'll get a reaction like that no matter where I see it.

Date: 2009-01-25 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
WHICH IS TO SAY, in short, I don't need anyone quoting any fricking DICTIONARIES to me. Jesus Christ.

Date: 2009-01-26 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] real-live-troll.livejournal.com
I didn't know it was a racial slur either. I've always heard people use it interchangeably with things like "dumbass" or "idiot".

Date: 2009-01-26 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
I thought it was an alternate of "dingbat." I use dink, dinkle, and the classic dinklefarb pretty interchangeably, and to date not once have I ever had anyone call me a racist, or even point out that "dink" is another word for "gook." I mean, one reason is that I run in a close circle of polite, classy people that don't even *know* any racial epithets beyond the N word possibly; the other is that I run in a close circle of polite, classy people who don't go into conniptions when someone uses a word they think is taboo. Nonetheless, I won't be employing that word on LiveJournal anymore, I mean, duh.

Date: 2009-01-29 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubygloomrox.livejournal.com
Yeah, we always used it instead of "dick" because that got our mouths washed out with soap.

Date: 2009-01-25 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robert-johnson.livejournal.com
Dink is pretty rotten thing to call someone. It's a racist term. Not that you knew. I'm Just saying.

Date: 2009-01-25 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
If the King of the Delta Blues says so, I'm buyin' it.

Date: 2009-01-26 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I have never, ever in my very, very long life heard the word "dink" used to describe anyone's race.

Don't go see Grand Torino. If you talk to `Nam vets, you'll eventually hear it.

Date: 2009-01-27 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mikepictor.livejournal.com
meh, it's racist if you are using a monkey analogy for the sole reason he's black (and you'll note, Biden, Clinton, and assorted other white people were represented as monkeys too).

If you are using monkey imagery as a retort for the overused same imagery when it was applied to Bush, it's really just a fair come back.

Personally, I say to the movie's creator, well played.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
Good morning Trollshine.
No one says hello.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caerfrli.livejournal.com
for the most part, these apes don't really look like Obama whereas the ones in the bush equivalent were a pretty good match.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessica-leah.livejournal.com
Please don't act like we're all too dumb to "get it" when you're just an idiot.

Date: 2009-01-25 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epikaste.livejournal.com
Okay, guys, seriously - STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!

Date: 2009-01-25 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygrii-blop.livejournal.com
I don't think he's trolling. He's being silly, but that's not trollish behavior. You don't have to read it.

Date: 2009-01-26 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desidono.livejournal.com
/applause

FWIW, I missed you.

Date: 2009-01-25 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epikaste.livejournal.com
God damn it, replied to the wrong comment - Silliness and racism = two different things.

Date: 2009-01-25 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greatbearmd.livejournal.com
In before the racis...

DAMMIT!

Date: 2009-01-25 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-hamburglar.livejournal.com
excellent post will read again

Date: 2009-01-26 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Howard Cosell aside, that sucked. The guitarist was okay though...

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