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[edgar-suit.livejournal.com]

This may or may not be factual. There may be other countries, I don't know. I just thought it poignant.

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[chambergambit.livejournal.com]

Idgi. Is this supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing?

[edgar-suit.livejournal.com]

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." - Benjamin Franklin

[i.livejournal.com]

nice quote

[city-of-dis.livejournal.com]

Or worse, taken away, as was the case with Prop 8.

[savagemind.livejournal.com]

I'm assuming that it's a statement about votes like Prop 8 in California that banned gay marriage in the state. Whether it's a good thing or not is a matter of your opinions on gay marriage.

[faylnncortez.livejournal.com]

I'm going to go with this interpretation

[annainthecity.livejournal.com]

No, it's not. It has nothing to do with your opinion on gay marriage. It has to do with voting to give people rights. It shouldn't even be up for discussion, much less voted on.

[savagemind.livejournal.com]

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, I go out of my way to simply tell a person what something is about and to not tell them what to think and right on cue some twit with a bug up their ass shows up and scolds me for not cramming my opinion down some random Internet stranger's throat.

Forgive me if I'm not out to convert the world to my brand of equality or if I don't think that my opinions on gay marriage have any relevance in regards to explaining what an illustration is attempting to represent. Now please, piss off and get a fucking hobby.

[annainthecity.livejournal.com]

Too early to be this cranky, no?

[savagemind.livejournal.com]

Or too early to bark at a stranger for daring to make a neutral statement about a controversial subject in a naive effort to inform someone rather than to uselessly preach to them, yeah.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Way off cue - they were six hours late!

[savagemind.livejournal.com]

LOL!

[xforge.livejournal.com]

The majority doesn't get to vote on what rights the minority get; that's... well, it's fucking stupid, is what it is.

[kgbman.livejournal.com]

I find it strange that in one breath people tell me natural law is a bunch of mystical hooey, and in the next they unwittingly appeal to natural law like in this picture.

[kgbman.livejournal.com]

We must say that the natural law, as to general principles, is the same for all, both as to rectitude and as to knowledge. But as to certain matters of detail, which are conclusions, as it were, of those general principles, it is the same for all in the majority of cases, both as to rectitude and as to knowledge; and yet in some few cases it may fail, both as to rectitude, by reason of certain obstacles (just as natures subject to generation and corruption fail in some few cases on account of some obstacle), and as to knowledge, since in some the reason is perverted by passion, or evil habit, or an evil disposition of nature; thus formerly, theft, although it is expressly contrary to the natural law, was not considered wrong among the Germans, as Julius Caesar relates (De Bello Gall. vi).
---St. Thomas Aquinas

[i.livejournal.com]

i stopped reading at St.

[kgbman.livejournal.com]

I get asked those questions enough I wrote entries (http://kgbman.livejournal.com/31138.html) addressing them. (http://kgbman.livejournal.com/29963.html)

It doesn't really make a difference to my argument whether homosexuality as an inclination is genetic or a choice. Acting on those impulses is always and in all circumstances wrong for the same reason drinking Liquid Drano is wrong: that's just not what we're designed for.

[torasama.livejournal.com]

Yes, King David should have been stoned to death for his relationship with Jonathan.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

We're designed for a lot of things modern societies don't do anymore.

[latenightapathy.livejournal.com]

It's not necessarily natural law they are referring to. It could just as easily be, say, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the UN Charter, or any other number of established international codes that basically all of those states have signed or ratified or recognized, whatever the codes required.

[kgbman.livejournal.com]

Implicit in things like declarations of human rights though is the assumption that we are merely codifying something that objectively exists, i.e. human rights.

[edgar-suit.livejournal.com]

Right. I wasn't going to completely factual, but more... ironic(?).

[hazardous-filth.livejournal.com]

"the US, a bastion of freedom and democracy" .. sorry but in which century were you born? Cos you sure as hell don't sound like you're talking about the USA the rest of us know of.

[hazardous-filth.livejournal.com]

Oh my god, the US rates okish against arse backwards 3rd world countries which it has at least a hundred year head start on, wow I'm so impressed.

Being better than the worst, doesn't classify you as a 'bastion'. Though the fact Americans can still spell freedom, democracy or liberty is at least a small sign of hope, they have enough trouble with the English language as it is.

[spicedogs.livejournal.com]

And is that bad?

[fleaplus.livejournal.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_same-sex_marriage

Same-sex marriage is apparently only permitted in 18 of the ~200 countries in the world. It's unfortunate that it's so few, but the US is hardly some sort of backwater on this.

[nastasie.livejournal.com]

I think that is why the legend says "modern, industrialized nations", by which I figured it means "Western civilization", and if that's true, I'd say it's a good point.

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

Well, modern, industrialised nations are the 2nd world now. Much of the world has moved on to post-modern, post-industrial economies.

[latenightapathy.livejournal.com]

Nor are Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and the DRC "modern, industrialized nations."

[edgar-suit.livejournal.com]

Right, but those places don't VOTE on it. Or do they?

[anfalicious.livejournal.com]

IDGI...

link to a huge map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Gay_Rights.png)

[fleaplus.livejournal.com]

Thanks!

[megiloth.livejournal.com]

I wonder how many of those countries put to death this certain minority of disenfranchised peoples.

But once again, America is the bad guy. We get it. You're progressive. bla bla bla...

[wakeuplovely.livejournal.com]

No- I think you have it backwards. It means that the US is far behind all other industrialized nations because we don't automatically grant rights to minorities. (aka the gay marriage debate)

[torasama.livejournal.com]

Have you heard of all this crap (http://www.365gay.com/news/florida-arkansas-voters-ok-anti-gay-ballot-measures/)? The comic is referring to more than one thing.

[torasama.livejournal.com]

I'd be willing to bet the US isn't the only county that does so, you're right. It's just a lot more.. ironic? when we do it, because we spout off "liberty for all," "equality," etc. etc. to the rest of the world.

[torasama.livejournal.com]

Yeah. We do *have* 3rd parties, there's just this huge stigma attached to them. It's percieved as a wasted vote. So the news and other media refuse to cover them, as evidenced by Ralph Nader (Green Party).

[camac.livejournal.com]

If the US had voted about slavery... I wonder.

[petdance.livejournal.com]

This may or may not be factual.

Then I guess it may or may not be poignant.