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[drivebyluna.livejournal.com]

A portrait of George W. Bush using the names of soldiers that have died in the Iraq War.

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[thebigbadbutch.livejournal.com]

Pictures like that might land your ass in Guantanamo Bay.

[khassem.livejournal.com]

Bush sacrificed golf for those in uniform. And this is how we repay him?

[elena-marie.livejournal.com]

ahh, the rasterbator (http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/). what can you not do?

*makes note to self to work on my own rasterbation project*

[j0kerr.livejournal.com]

Democrats are so cute.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Unlike your mother.

[j0kerr.livejournal.com]

Yeah, your mom is cuter. Thats why I raped her.

[sawgunner.livejournal.com]

dude grow up seriously more teenagers die in car accidents each year than the troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan

[ygrii-blop.livejournal.com]

You've nailed it. That's a damn good reason to continue this obscenity. Thank you!

[j0kerr.livejournal.com]

You are right. We need to pull out of Iraq. Umm.....so what are you driving?

[sawgunner.livejournal.com]

your welcome

[ltmurdoch.livejournal.com]

That may be true, but I don't recall George W. Bush forcing hundreds of thousands of teenagers to go out driving really fast on very dangerous roads without seatbelts because he claimed, innaccurately, that doing so would make us all safer and we had no reasonable alternatives.

I think there's a difference.

[fleaplus.livejournal.com]

> That may be true, but I don't recall George W. Bush forcing hundreds of thousands of teenagers to go out driving really fast on very dangerous roads without seatbelts because he claimed, innaccurately, that doing so would make us all safer and we had no reasonable alternatives.

Do you think that the majority of those teenagers sent to Iraq would agree with your sentiment?

[ltmurdoch.livejournal.com]

Good question, although I'm not sure if what they think is really relevant to our opinion of George Bush's decision.

But let me answer your question in parts:

Would our soldiers agree that they are "forced" to be in Iraq? Ask any of them if they could come home if they wanted to and they'll say "no." So, they really don't have a choice. That seems "forced" to me. But I suppose some of them actually want to be in Iraq fighting. Is it a majority? I don't know. Is it all of them? Certainly not. Why else would we need to "stop-loss" so many of them?

Would our soldiers agree they are in a dangerous situation (i.e. "driving really fast on very dangerous roads.")? That has to be a big "yes."

Would our soldiers agree they do not have all the equipment they need to keep them safe (i.e. "without seatbelts")? Given the unarmored Humvees and lack of body armor provided, I gotta think that a majority would agree.

Would a majority of soldiers agree that George Bush was wrong in his claim that our being in Iraq has made it safer for us at home? I guess that depends on how many are familiar with the fact that there were no WMDs, or the bipartisan commissions conclusions that our war in Iraq has been a recruiting tool for radical Islamic groups and has made the US less safe than it was before, or how the military is stretched to the point where it would be very difficult to engage a real threat to our security (e.g. N. Korea or Iran).

This is tangential, but I would assert that most of our soldiers would absolutely agree that they are helping keep many of the citizens of Iraq safer and helping to give them a better life. That's very noble and honorable, but that's not what this war was supposed to be about. And I'm pretty sure we would have never decided to spend more than $500 Billion and 4,000 lives to do that.

[fleaplus.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the response.

[sawgunner.livejournal.com]

its a proven fact that Saddam had WMD's

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

So does Kim Jong Il, and he's shown the penchant to use them. Yet why do we only have a couple thousand troops stationed there?

P.S. - the SAW sucks, get a 240 already.

[sawgunner.livejournal.com]

Saddam has already used them besides he'll probally be next

[sawgunner.livejournal.com]

the saw rocks ok

[desidono.livejournal.com]

lol.

[ltmurdoch.livejournal.com]

Yes, he had them at one point. But at the time we attacked, he didn't. And it's a proven fact that Saddam was not an imminent threat to the U.S. at the time we attacked.

In my view, before we commit our soldiers to risk their lives, we need to be 100% sure we're doing it for the right reason and there are no other alternative that will keep us safe.

In the case of "preemptive" war, we have to know goddamn well that we are in imminent danger.

It's like being a cop in a standoff. Before you shoot the suspect, you better see the gun and be sure he's not just reaching for his wallet. Now, I know that's dangerous. By the time you see the gun, it may be too late and you can get yourself killed. But in this case we had our gun drawn on the suspect, and we had a few people over there frisking him for weapons. True, he was resisting being frisked, but we decided to unload our magazine on the suspect before the frisking was done.

And, in case the metaphor is not clear, George Bush is the finger doing the pulling on the trigger. So, I don't think rasterizing his face with the names of the dead soldiers is at all out of line.

[desidono.livejournal.com]

And your point is what?

[ccnuggie.livejournal.com]

wow this is so deep

[j0kerr.livejournal.com]

I would like you to correct your statement and not leave out any countries who shared intelligence with the US to come to the same conclusion. Thank you.