Some of these are decontextualized enough that I'm not sure if they were really as myopic as they seem, and there are too many ellipses for my tastes, but damn that Fred Barnes quote is dumb, no matter how you spin or contextualize it it. It's a good thing I didn't have much respect for him, or else I would have lost it.
Okay. All this is true. Lots of folk have egg all over their faces. We still have a mess to clean up. And we still have to find the right way of doing that. Recriminations can wait until afterwards, which is not to say that we forgive and forget. The tu quoque 'yah boo' political posturing seems much more the preserve of those discredited by subsequent facts, rather than that of the position of those who had forethought. Ideological victory is pyrrhic in these circumstances.
One of our problems is we deny our own culpability in all this mess. If more than half of the population of the country had voted in the last Presidential election things might have been different. En masse, we don't give a damn, until we need to, then we blame the mouthpieces, or the ordinary soldiers, or the simple folk told from above what to say (that they may pay their mortgages - such is wage slavery). So we project our guilt (for our ignorance and our culpability) onto whomsoever. Strange Fruit. And it doesn't solve the problems. Just makes us feel better about ourselves, so we can ignore the problem again, because after Hillary or Barak, it will be another person funded by the giant corporations. And just like Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, when you know who pays your check, you know who your friends are. I wonder, technically speaking, are any late capitalist countries really democracies? Or are they all just accepting of their circumstances and delusional?
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Date: 2007-04-27 10:44 am (UTC)We still have a mess to clean up. And we still have to find the right way of doing that.
Recriminations can wait until afterwards, which is not to say that we forgive and forget.
The tu quoque 'yah boo' political posturing seems much more the preserve of those discredited by subsequent facts, rather than that of the position of those who had forethought.
Ideological victory is pyrrhic in these circumstances.
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Date: 2007-04-27 11:03 pm (UTC)the only thing is
he was talking about the iraqi military
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Date: 2007-04-27 11:05 pm (UTC)yay bias
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Date: 2007-04-28 02:33 pm (UTC)So we project our guilt (for our ignorance and our culpability) onto whomsoever.
Strange Fruit.
And it doesn't solve the problems. Just makes us feel better about ourselves, so we can ignore the problem again, because after Hillary or Barak, it will be another person funded by the giant corporations. And just like Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan, when you know who pays your check, you know who your friends are.
I wonder, technically speaking, are any late capitalist countries really democracies?
Or are they all just accepting of their circumstances and delusional?
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Date: 2007-04-29 12:05 pm (UTC)Do you have any links to the full text of the original statements?
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Date: 2007-04-30 05:30 pm (UTC)Neo-cons are the best people in the imaginary universe.
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Date: 2007-05-01 04:25 pm (UTC)Example
"Taxation without representation!"
See our founding fathers wanted taxation without representation. It was there battle cry.
See how easily that was done. Now don't let your hate blind you. By the way, the label Neo-Con sounds cooler than Secular Progressive.
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