Date: 2006-07-12 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loo.livejournal.com
Out-freakin-standing.

Date: 2006-07-12 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] labetephoque.livejournal.com
hahaha

Okay, this is a good cartoon.

Date: 2006-07-12 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
*snicker*

:P

Date: 2006-07-12 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stitchedsutures.livejournal.com
That whistling expression is perfect.

He's not really dead.

Date: 2006-07-12 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com

Witness protection program /faked death, now in Caribean.

Re: He's not really dead.

Date: 2006-07-12 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jane-ire.livejournal.com
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!

Date: 2006-07-12 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brutalentropy.livejournal.com
You're definitely not the only one...

Re: He's not really dead.

Date: 2006-07-12 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
Him and that banker over in London that they just found dead.

Date: 2006-07-12 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfox24.livejournal.com
Didn't you people just saying something about schadenfreude?

Image

Date: 2006-07-13 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-hamburglar.livejournal.com
What do you mean YOU PEOPLE

Date: 2006-07-12 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyarhotep.livejournal.com
what the fox said. this is just in poor taste. it's one thing to lampoon a figure who can defend themselves - it's another to kick them when they're dead

Date: 2006-07-12 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
Tell that to all the people who lost their savings, their pensions, their kids college tuition and their homes because of this man's greed. He deserves what he gets.

Date: 2006-07-12 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyarhotep.livejournal.com
yes, i recognize he did horrible things, no one's contesting that. however, why does that give you (or the artist) license to be cruel, vicious, disrespectful and generally hateful. the man's was tried, convicted and is now dead. he's payed his debt - let it rest

Date: 2006-07-12 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
Did he really pay his debt? Yes he's dead but has anyone gotten any money back? Have the lives broken by his actions been made whole? No.

Compaired to some of the outright venomous attacks I've seen in print, I think this is relativly mild and lighthearted. I also think that the cartoon is trying to express that despite his convition, nothing has really changed.

Date: 2006-07-12 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyarhotep.livejournal.com
his company, life, legacy, name, family, and heritage is broken and will be synonymous with corporate corruption for generations. there's not much more a single person can give in penance for their crimes

as for the relative level of this cartoon's acid or vitriol, ¿why does it matter? just because other artists seek to be even more tasteless doesn't change this cartoon's lack of quality. i'm all for black, sardonic, or twisted humour, but this is just cheap - it's not even clever

now, if you really think the artist was trying to say something with this cartoon, well i'll just have to disagree with you. i certainly agree that, overwhelmingly, corporate America hasn't changed because of the Enron scandal, but i really don't think that's what this cartoon was trying to portray

Date: 2006-07-12 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I find the cartoon to be clever, twisted and wonderfuly spot on and I do feel that the aritst was trying to convey a deeper message with this cartoon. You have expressed your disagreement and disgust with this cartoon and it has been duly noted.

Date: 2006-07-12 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
Paid his debt? No. To pay his debt would entail the victims of his conning getting their money back.

If you believe in an judgment after death, then he is receiving justice.

His corpse is rotting in the ground(maybe?) and there is no need to be respectful of it.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tbonestg.livejournal.com
Oh right. We've got people all over the world who are actually slaughtering people, and you go after the guy who had a few ethics problems.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
Actualy I go after the guy in the relavant cartoon we are discussing at the time. Oh and saying that Kenny boy has a "few eithic problems" is like saying Bush has a few problems with english.

Date: 2006-07-19 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tbonestg.livejournal.com
Oh and saying that Kenny boy has a "few eithic problems" is like saying Bush has a few problems with english.

So you're saying what...that Bush can't speak English?

Date: 2006-07-19 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
No I'm saying that for the leader of the free world, he speaks very poorly.

Date: 2006-07-20 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tbonestg.livejournal.com
LOL, he spoke perfectly well when he was talking to Blair.

Date: 2006-07-20 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katndhat33.livejournal.com
Ok, you got me on that one. That and when he was talking to Cheney about a reporter a few years back.

Date: 2006-07-12 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiesmustdie.livejournal.com
who cares? hes dead, whats he going to do? rise from the dead and get offended?

Date: 2006-07-12 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyarhotep.livejournal.com
well, being dead, he's not really the target-audience, now ¿is he?

Date: 2006-07-12 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jane-ire.livejournal.com
That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day.

Date: 2006-07-12 08:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-07-12 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofire.livejournal.com
so funny :D

Date: 2006-07-12 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakurabana1.livejournal.com
That's good.

Date: 2006-07-12 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yamansalahi.livejournal.com
I'm not down with making fun of recently-dead people.

Date: 2006-07-12 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakurabana1.livejournal.com
So how long must one wait?

Date: 2006-07-12 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yamansalahi.livejournal.com
Until wife and children are similarly dead

Date: 2006-07-13 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sakurabana1.livejournal.com
What about grandchildren? Great-grandchildren?

He wasn't spared when he was alive, why does it matter now?
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Date: 2006-07-13 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlion.livejournal.com
quoted for truth

Date: 2006-07-13 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmilligan.livejournal.com
I have to admit that I think of him saying that with an Adam Carolla voice.

Date: 2006-07-13 07:21 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-07-13 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anightwlkr.livejournal.com
Ouch...but funny.

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