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[oncogene.livejournal.com]

I can't believe there are people /for/ warrant-less phone tapping and data mining.

/face in hands

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

Like many thing, it depends on context. If used to catch, say, drug dealers, in the context of criminal investigations, then I'll fight it. Used as part of a prevasive surviellence/police state, I'll resist. Used in the context of war to spy on the enemy, I'm less inclined to get worked up.

Like I said before, the government, under the threat of prison time, makes me submit all kinds of personal financial information so to it so I can pay the income taxdd, and I'm supposed to get really worked up that in a database somewhere they have who I've made phone calls to? I'm having a hard time working up indignation.

The left only cares about some kinds of privacy. That the right is guilty of that too is hardly surprising.

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

We arent at war, there is no enemy.

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

Could have fooled me. Perhaps I just imagined part of the Manhattan skyline crumbing and people leaping out to their deaths. Maybe the people patrolling the no-fly zone in Iraq just imagined getting fired upon on a regular basis, and it's quite likely the Ahmadenijad really is just the Iranian version of Mr. Rogers.

It wouldn't be the first time in history people desperately wanted to believe there was no enemy. The British desperately wanted to believe in it in 1938, and history has shown how well that worked out for humanity.

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

Ah ha ha ha ha ha. Yea, they are hitler. Dream on.

9/11 was a crime, a very very large crime, and we should be dispensing justice to those who perpetrated it.

We aren't

The no-fly zone was illegal, not based on any treaty. I.E. Causus Belli.

Furthermore, Iraq had and has no weapons of Mass Destruction, and has and had no connection to Al-Qaeda or Osama Bin Laden

Ahmadenijad isnt Mr. Rogers, but he isnt our enemy either, he is the head of a democratic nation, one that got screwed by protestors. In a few more years, he will be gone.

So yes, it seems you did get fooled. It is a shame that bush's new "fool me once" adage isnt true.

[clownshoes.livejournal.com]

Iraq has a very strong connection with Al Quada and Osama; don't talk until you know what you're talking about, dumbass.

[studmuff.livejournal.com]

sadly hilarious comment

[njtech.livejournal.com]

once you let them do the last, they'll bust the door wide open and do the former and it'll be too late to get worked up.

horse outta the barn already, and closing the barn door and all that that cliched shit

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

Slippery slope arguments certainly do have some merit. But I still think context matters in this case. To me the fourth amendemnt isn't so much about privacy, so much as it's about the right to be left alone by the government. The fact that the phone calls I've made are sitting in some NSA database somewhere, probably never once looked at by anyone (and I would pity the poor person who tried to derive any pattern from them), doesn't really get me fired up when the IRS has information on me I consder much more personal than who I've been calling.

When the government's spying activities cross that threshold, I'll being to get more concerned.

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

Oh really?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/federal_source_.html

[oncogene.livejournal.com]

Thanks, but I care about all forms of privacy.

[kmilligan.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean to project that onto you specifically, I was making a more general statement.

[studmuff.livejournal.com]

Well, lucky you! Because nobody is wiretapping you or any other American that is making domestic calls! What a relief, eh?

[oncogene.livejournal.com]

Heh, you're so presumptuous. :)

[marksism.livejournal.com]

the first one confuses me

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

He is saying that people who want to open the border want to hurt america.

I dont understand the second one. Havent been paying attention what is happening to the Dutch.

[emilysavetheday.livejournal.com]

I still don't get it. I mean, the setup seems to be too clever for the result.

[unluckystunt.livejournal.com]

Yeah. When I first saw it I thought maybe it was making a point about both sides of the political spectrum taking issue with illegal immigration, but it's just another LOL LIBS punchline.

Just a little FYI

[kylenivi.livejournal.com]

A Dutch politician, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who moved there in 1992 from Somalia seeking asylum appeatrs to have lied about her past and now her Dutch citizenship may be taken away. She has alraedy been offered a job at the American Enterprise Institute, which is a neo-conservative thinktank, and she will be moving to the US. She has stood up against Islam's treatment of women and has received a number of death threats.... soooo she cant really head back to Somalia and the Dutch don't want her anymore.

Re: Just a little FYI

[goumindong.livejournal.com]

How did "islamism"(lord what a bad label) destroy the boat? Is the boat supposed to be Holland?

The toon doesnt seem to make sense in light of your info and the wiki.

That being said, thanks for the heads up.

Re: Just a little FYI

[kylenivi.livejournal.com]

I think "Islamism" is destroying the boat (which looks to be just her boat) because of her criticism of it. The cartoon is portraying America as saving her and being her haven since she's swimming away from her problems towards the US. Not a very funny cartoon but I think it makes sense, especially because the US is being portrayed as a knight in shining armor (at least in the newspapers I've been reading).

Re: The third one

[squidb0i.livejournal.com]

Werd.

Re: The third one

[clownshoes.livejournal.com]

I smiled at it.