"This newly discovered Kwanzaa or Winter Solstice stuff is just silly."
To you. You're white as snow - and like your religions ancient, just like those who killed Christians back in the Roman day.
Israel is a country where there are 2 tiers of citizenship. To fulfill the requirements for the higher level of citizenship, you must be Jewish. It's a Jewish nation.
The U.S. Constitution says that the United States was founded as a secular government, based on the authority of "We, the People," not a god, king, or dictator.
The word "God" appear in the U.S. Constitution zero times. The U.S. Constitution is a godless document.
The Declaration of Independence refer to Christianity or Jesus exactly zero times. There is no mention of Jesus, Christ, Christianity, religious persecution, or religious freedom in the Declaration of Independence.
The separation of church and state originated in the United States of America. The U.S.A. was the very first nation in history to separate church and state.
Roger Williams' Providence settlement founded in 1656 expressly guaranteed religious freedom. However, the Pilgrims originally were a tolerant people, when they founded Plymouth in 1620. By 1691, the Pilgrims had adopted the theocratic, intolerant Calvinism of the Puritans, who founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1628. The Puritans came to this land expressly to establish a bible commonwealth, and banished "heretics" and dissenters. In Virginia, heresy was a capital offense punishable by death by burning. Quakers were particularly persecuted. People who were not orthodox Christians were not legally protected, could be denied civil rights and jailed. The founders of the new nation of the United States of America, conversant with extreme religious intolerance and violence in the several colonies, were determined to put an end to it. That is why they established state/church separation.
"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity [sic] of Musselmen... it is declared... that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." -- 1797 U.S. treaty with Tripoli. This treaty was written under Washington's presidency, and it was ratified by Congress under President John Adams, signed by Adams.
By an Act of Congress, U.S. currency has carried the motto "In God We Trust" only since 1957.
The Pledge of Allegiance, first published in 1892, has included the words "under God" only since 1954.
In other words, Israel's theocracy (falsely called a "democracy" by some) can in no way be compared to the USA in matters of religion.
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Date: 2005-12-07 04:24 am (UTC)To you. You're white as snow - and like your religions ancient, just like those who killed Christians back in the Roman day.
Israel is a country where there are 2 tiers of citizenship. To fulfill the requirements for the higher level of citizenship, you must be Jewish. It's a Jewish nation.
The U.S. Constitution says that the United States was founded as a secular government, based on the authority of "We, the People," not a god, king, or dictator.
The word "God" appear in the U.S. Constitution zero times. The U.S. Constitution is a godless document.
The Declaration of Independence refer to Christianity or Jesus exactly zero times. There is no mention of Jesus, Christ, Christianity, religious persecution, or religious freedom in the Declaration of Independence.
The separation of church and state originated in the United States of America. The U.S.A. was the very first nation in history to separate church and state.
Roger Williams' Providence settlement founded in 1656 expressly guaranteed religious freedom. However, the Pilgrims originally were a tolerant people, when they founded Plymouth in 1620. By 1691, the Pilgrims had adopted the theocratic, intolerant Calvinism of the Puritans, who founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1628. The Puritans came to this land expressly to establish a bible commonwealth, and banished "heretics" and dissenters. In Virginia, heresy was a capital offense punishable by death by burning. Quakers were particularly persecuted. People who were not orthodox Christians were not legally protected, could be denied civil rights and jailed. The founders of the new nation of the United States of America, conversant with extreme religious intolerance and violence in the several colonies, were determined to put an end to it. That is why they established state/church separation.
"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity [sic] of Musselmen... it is declared... that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
-- 1797 U.S. treaty with Tripoli. This treaty was written under Washington's presidency, and it was ratified by Congress under President John Adams, signed by Adams.
By an Act of Congress, U.S. currency has carried the motto "In God We Trust" only since 1957.
The Pledge of Allegiance, first published in 1892, has included the words "under God" only since 1954.
In other words, Israel's theocracy (falsely called a "democracy" by some) can in no way be compared to the USA in matters of religion.